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To: marktwain
" Among the most ardent opposing these measures will be military veterans, active duty servicemen, and local law enforcement officers. Many of these individuals will refuse to carry out what they view as Constitutionally illegal orders."

Bravo Sierra, there's no shortage of LEOs who will gleefully shoot a penned up Golden Retriever so I don't expect any problem getting unconstitutional orders obeyed.

30 posted on 12/31/2012 11:10:43 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods

Golden Retrievers normally don’t have the capability to shoot back.


36 posted on 12/31/2012 11:21:00 AM PST by technically right
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To: muir_redwoods

Bravo Sierra, there's no shortage of LEOs who will gleefully shoot a penned up Golden Retriever so I don't expect any problem getting unconstitutional orders obeyed. “

Golden Retrievers don't have index fingers.

38 posted on 12/31/2012 11:21:15 AM PST by rickomatic
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To: muir_redwoods

I would be shocked if the police refused to carry out any ordered activity;they will just do it with the excuse the lawyers can sort it out later.

The fraudulent election of a foreign-born Marxist-Muslim-narcissist may very well spell the end of America as envisioned these many years past.

A few thousands might resist with force but unless they successfully take out prime movers their acts will just be used to scare the general population into submission to the government.


40 posted on 12/31/2012 11:24:10 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: muir_redwoods
there's no shortage of LEOs who will [obey unconstitutional orders to shoot fellow Americans]

Probably enough for the first round suppression of civilian insurrections. After two or three cycles of this, I expect the security forces will fracture.

After it becomes widely known that the Government is arming pro-government militias (composed mostly of criminal gang members), some of those Federal security forces will be shooting at each other.

Not only that, but there will likely be many LEO's dismissed from State and local governments due to funding problems - and/or perceived unreliability. They will very angry with the Government that betrays them.

Things will get complicated.

52 posted on 12/31/2012 11:52:31 AM PST by flamberge (What next?)
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To: muir_redwoods
muir_redwoods said: "... there's no shortage of LEOs who will gleefully shoot a penned up Golden Retriever so I don't expect any problem getting unconstitutional orders obeyed."

During the LA riots, while Korean shopkeepers on roof tops protected their property using semi-automatic rifles, the police were nowhere to be found.

While Reginald Denny was dragged from his truck and beaten savagely, the police were nowhere to be found.

Since it must be assumed, unless explicitly and convincingly contradicted, that the police will side with the gun-grabbers, the police will simply be completely unwelcome. Even if individual policemen gave up their uniforms and badges, there would be no way to create confidence that they were not siding with the gun-grabbers.

Unfortunately, the same must be said about the National Guard and other military. It must be assumed that their chain of command will support the gun-grabbers. Active military will have to recognize that gun confiscation is an unlawful order and resist their own chain of command. There is no way that uniformed military will be welcome if the government attempts to eliminate the Second Amendment.

59 posted on 12/31/2012 12:36:41 PM PST by William Tell
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