[William Tell]

muir_redwoods said: "... there's no shortage of LEOs who will gleefully shoot a penned up Golden Retriever so I don't expect any problem getting unconstitutional orders obeyed."

During the LA riots, while Korean shopkeepers on roof tops protected their property using semi-automatic rifles, the police were nowhere to be found.

While Reginald Denny was dragged from his truck and beaten savagely, the police were nowhere to be found.

Since it must be assumed, unless explicitly and convincingly contradicted, that the police will side with the gun-grabbers, the police will simply be completely unwelcome. Even if individual policemen gave up their uniforms and badges, there would be no way to create confidence that they were not siding with the gun-grabbers.

Unfortunately, the same must be said about the National Guard and other military. It must be assumed that their chain of command will support the gun-grabbers. Active military will have to recognize that gun confiscation is an unlawful order and resist their own chain of command. There is no way that uniformed military will be welcome if the government attempts to eliminate the Second Amendment.

[Peet]

Forgot to warn y'all, my post above is a PDF...

During the LA riots, while Korean shopkeepers on roof tops protected their property using semi-automatic rifles, the police were nowhere to be found.

While Reginald Denny was dragged from his truck and beaten savagely, the police were nowhere to be found.

Since it must be assumed, unless explicitly and convincingly contradicted, that the police will side with the gun-grabbers, the police will simply be completely unwelcome. Even if individual policemen gave up their uniforms and badges, there would be no way to create confidence that they were not siding with the gun-grabbers.

Unfortunately, the same must be said about the National Guard and other military. It must be assumed that their chain of command will support the gun-grabbers. Active military will have to recognize that gun confiscation is an unlawful order and resist their own chain of command. There is no way that uniformed military will be welcome if the government attempts to eliminate the Second Amendment.

If anyone doesn't believe William, just search youtube for videos from New Orleans after Katrina hit. You will see CHiP pigs beating up an old woman to confiscate her revolver and forcibly relocate her (there's a follow-up interview in which she details her injuries).

There is also an interview with a national guard soldier in N.O. who was "uncomfortable" with the idea that he might have to shoot fellow Americans. Interviewed as his fellow soldiers in the background are going house-to-house forcibly evacuating folks.