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To: marktwain

Not gonna happen. Not saying there won’t be some regs (probably on assalt weapons) but there is zero chance of significant regulation (a good thing). SCOTUS has already ruled on the primary issue, courts are following that ruling, legislatures (for the most part) aren’t regulating guns, it won’t pass Congress, etc, etc, etc.

Furthermore, if anyone thinks that gun owners are going to stand against a government as powerful as the U.S., and be successful on any level, they are under a severe delusion. Most gun owners won’t fight. Only a handful of military would join those that do fight. The government has tanks and drones and ... well the list goes on.

They will not take our guns away. Never gonna happen. But if they wanted to, they could easily do so. This isn’t Red Dawn.


23 posted on 12/31/2012 10:56:01 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: RIghtwardHo

Yes it is not Red Dawn the commies would have never gotten that far and back then we would have continued the use of nukes. Even if they wanted they don’t have enough manpower to confiscate anything. WOD proved that. We can’t even control our own border. All they can do is over-regulate and tax and hope to get them via attrition. Also, make no mistake we sold enough arms in our times that there are other countries chomping at the bit to sell arms/ammo to our civilians.

The country is on the verge of a schism and who knows what straw will break the camels back. Gun control is definitely one of them. I for one am tiring of the “people” who keep trying to remind some of us that we won’t do anything when the time comes. You don’t know me or anyone I know, so spout that conformist shit elsewhere. Once the fight starts there will be 3 sides, the marxist, the patriots, and the conformist (pansies for lack of a better word) who will go the ways of the Jews in last century given the chance.


34 posted on 12/31/2012 11:18:14 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: RIghtwardHo

>>This isn’t Red Dawn.<<

Not yet. If they want our guns, they’ll have to fight us. Those who won’t fight, get used to your chains.


35 posted on 12/31/2012 11:20:52 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: RIghtwardHo
Furthermore, if anyone thinks that gun owners are going to stand against a government as powerful as the U.S., and be successful on any level, they are under a severe delusion.

If I recall correctly, the Afghans held off the Russians and ourselves for many, many years. They didn’t have an air force, tanks, or drones and yet…

39 posted on 12/31/2012 11:23:37 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: RIghtwardHo

I agree completely.See my #33.


42 posted on 12/31/2012 11:25:34 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: RIghtwardHo

“Furthermore, if anyone thinks that gun owners are going to stand against a government as powerful as the U.S., and be successful on any level, they are under a severe delusion”

Governments with strong militaries DO fall, and the fall can be precipitated by widespread political and military resistance. It’s happennned in France over and over again since 1789, and in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union twenty years ago. The rebels probably would not carve out their own independent state, but a coup is a distinct possibility.

The resistors would not fight the military head on of course, they would engage in guerilla warfare and pick soft targets (state pols, bureaucrats, journalists, family members of the above). With all the preppers out there, some of the resistors could find places for re-supply (think of the Dilinger gang in the 30s).

And keep this in mind, economic chaos will likely also ensue because of absurd Leftist economic policies. When the EBT cards are invalid, the military will have their hands full with welfare mobs and FEMA camps.


44 posted on 12/31/2012 11:30:11 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: RIghtwardHo
They will not take our guns away. Never gonna happen. But if they wanted to, they could easily do so.

If it were as easy as you think, our guns would have been confiscated by our government a long time ago. It's not at all "easy". Frankly, it's impossible, which is why it's never been tried.

Why is it impossible? Well, for one, our right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed in our nation's founding charter. The strong and certain sense of that right has been passed down through every generation in this country since its inception. It's now a part of our national DNA.

Secondly, gun ownership is so widespread in America that there are now an estimated 90 million (known) gun owners, possessing an estimated 270 million firearms. Any move to confiscate those weapons is going to be met with massive resistance. Most of those gun owners realize that their guns are the only things standing between them and the gulag. Once our guns are gone, we'll never get them back, and millions of patriots be murdered by their own government.

Don't think that your government hasn't war gamed this scenario out many times. The fact that they've never come for your guns should tell you that their simulations showed them losing every time.

55 posted on 12/31/2012 11:56:17 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

“Furthermore, if anyone thinks that gun owners are going to stand against a government as powerful as the U.S., and be successful on any level, they are under a severe delusion...”

Explain Afghanistan. Hell, explain the failed WOD already underway in this country. We’re not giving up our guns.


61 posted on 12/31/2012 12:45:56 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: RIghtwardHo
RIghtwardHo said: "But if they wanted to, they could easily do so. "

The Civil War erupted at a time when the slave-holding South recognized that their situation was untenable. Slavery was going to end if they remained in the Union.

Despite their unjust cause of wanting to perpetuate the owning of people as property, it took years and half a million lives to get the South to lay down its weapons.

How could there be less bloodshed protecting the right to keep and bear arms, a cause which had already ignited the American Revolution and which our Founders recognized as essential to the security of a free state?

I can't predict how the people of New Hampshire will behave, despite their motto of "Live Free or Die", but I'm pretty sure that Texas, Arizona, and Utah will be keys to a bright future.

64 posted on 12/31/2012 12:50:37 PM PST by William Tell
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To: RIghtwardHo

Yeah. That’s why the mighty US military disarmed the Taliban so easily.


83 posted on 12/31/2012 5:43:01 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RIghtwardHo
You are utterly ignorant of history, and clearly have not talked to any significant number of soldiers. Read up on the Warsaw Ghetto. Read up on Partisan uprisings. Further, this is a common topic of conversation in most military towns, and a very significant percentage of soldiers know exactly, how, when, and where they will take control of which vehicles, weapons, and supplies... and anything else that's on base that they may need. The lines are already drawn inside the ranks, and everyone knows who they can and can't talk to once it begins.

Personally, I think you're either a fool, or a Lefty plant, to post that.

85 posted on 12/31/2012 5:56:04 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: RIghtwardHo; melancholy
They will not take our guns away. Never gonna happen. But if they wanted to, they could easily do so. This isn’t Red Dawn.

Usual snot-like tripe from you.

86 posted on 12/31/2012 6:45:37 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: RIghtwardHo
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking:

What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?

Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?...

The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...

We didn’t love freedom enough.
And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation....
We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago

88 posted on 12/31/2012 7:02:14 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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