Posted on 12/18/2012 2:44:18 PM PST by ken5050
We are just starting to learn a great deal about Adam and Nancy Lanza, probably far, far more than we really care to. We've been told about Adam just getting his driver's license, Nancy's newly rediscovered passion for firearms and shooting, how Adam was a near genius in some ways, how he lived in the basement of his mother's home, decorated with military type posters, how much alimony she received. One simple thing we have yet to be told: Did Nancy Lanza own a gun safe?
Her friends have told us how, in the last year or so, she was increasingly burdened with the fact that her obviously disturbed son was growing into adulthood. She was devoted to trying to care for him ( I'd wager that was the cause of the marital breakup) but as he got older, began driving, was thinking about moving away to attend college, it was becoming harder to cope.
She may have felt comfortable introducing him to firearms, teaching him to shoot, indeed, she may have felt it was a way to reach him, maintain some contact, as he obviously was fascinated with firearms. She may not have perceived him as dangerous. On that, I have no idea, and no opinion.
But if she left these weapons around the house, unsecured, not locked in a gun safe, then everything that happened at Newton is on her. Period. For that was completely inexcusable.
It is also possible that she had a gun safe, had the weapons secured, but her son, who was a computer/electronics geek, and quite clever, might have found the key, the password. If that's the case, the blame is still on her, for being careless, but at least she made an effort.
I've been following the story fairly closely, and haven't seen the question asked. Which in and of itself seems odd, as it's so obvious.
She should never had any weapons in the house with a lunatic like that safe or not unless the thing was like fort knox.
Well, I am not insane, but we had guns in our house all the time I was growing up. In fact, I used to cleans them even before I was 9 years old. A gun safe isn’t the answer. The answer is training and supervision. I don’t think a gun safe would have stopped this kid. He did what he did because he was sick and needed more supervision than the woman could give him.
Is that correct?
The mother was murdered at home, not at school.
She was only a part-time teacher, had she taught at all this year at the school.
What business did he have at the elementary school the days prior to the mass murder?
Even a genius kid can’t get into a well-made gun safe.
The basic problem with having a safe is that you advertise to any visitors/workers that you have something of value inside the safe that is of greater value than what they might see around your house. Word can get around and at some point, someone waits for you, gets the jump on you and demands that you show them what’s inside the safe.
The blame is on Adam Lanza.
A good gun safe is safe. Period.
By that I mean 1500-2000 punds and bolted, and solid
enough that normal tools won’t dent it.
200K+ alimony
gun locker
the woman eventook her kid to a range after admitting her kid is not in the mainstream.
Maybe if she stopped being his friend, started to show discipline at an early age, teach morals, hard work he might have not been going to crap in his early teens.
We have a nut kid ext door, non one is ever around to raise him thus he goes about doing what he wants,. The last thing I woudl do is let this kid near a gun and here is her taking the kid to a range and what;s the betting she bought him the gun because he wanted one.Have to be a good friend for the modern parent you know
“Even a genius kid can’t get into a well-made gun safe.”
What about with a well-placed, well-hidden camera hooked to his computer, so he could watch the safe being opened? Record the vid, zoom, etc.?
First, don't leave guns around the house and don't have any knives, scissors razor blades, heavy rocks, hunks of iron ~ whatever.
Move out!
Now!
Where was Dad in all this?
Yes, but it would show she at least took some basic precautions against this freak show.
the blame is on him and how he was brought up.
What kind of a mother woudl take her kid who is not mainstream to a range, did she buy him the gun and maybe he did not listen to her ebcause he did not respect her because she did not raise him wiht morals and respect.
The left promoted getting rid of fathers, discipline, morals,hard work and instead be a friend, buy them all what they want crap.
Well it;s about time the left admitted the attack on the fmaily and promotion of divorce, the lack of men in boys lives, the lack of morals and hard work, the new way of being a parent and just talking to them and being a friend has not worked.
Society has gone to crap and it;s no coincidence that it weent to crap when women were told to get out , get a job and career and stop this moral stuff.
My wife worked as a nanny and saw first hand how some raise their kids or there lack of.
First job as a aprent is be parent, my job is to raise my boys to be good future husbands, are good son and brothers and future fathers.. So far so good
she wanted her career, no father in house, tired after work so leave kid to his own in his bedroom at an early age and let kid raise himself.
Once kid gets teens then it;s too late to tell others one thinks she;s lost kid.
Being a parent is full time
Good point. I’m not yet up on the super-genius technology yet.
Good point. I’m not yet up on the super-genius technology yet.
If reports are true, and who knows, that she was trying to get him
committed. Teaching him how to use weapons and trying to commit him
don’t mix. If she did not have a gun safe, the moment she started the
process to committ him is the moment she should have bought a gun safe.
Period.
I got the drift that Mom took junior shooting as a way to “bond” with him. My dad did that with me and those times plinking were some of my happiest memories of him.
However, I suspect she had a lapse of jugement in just how open she was with him (again - trying to bond and all that -) and felt that his easy access to the guns would be trustfull, not abused, and strengthen their relationship.
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