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1 posted on 11/24/2012 7:51:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Ya, the war is already here. The fighting is currently in the inner cities of Chicago and the such.

Won’t be long and it’ll spread.


2 posted on 11/24/2012 7:52:58 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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This is a really long strange trip through foil hat land. That such articles are appearing, unfortunately is not a good sign at all. People are mad as h-ll about Nov 6 and if Limbaugh's observation is accurate that ‘events rather than politics’ will bring down the regime then it is going to be a very bumpy ride.
3 posted on 11/24/2012 7:56:53 PM PST by robowombat
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The opening salvo of this war will be fired when the Obama Administration tries to take our 401(k) accounts and roll them into a government controlled annuity.

It will get violent at that point.


4 posted on 11/24/2012 7:57:10 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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I say let’s get this crap over with. They can have their glorious over taxed utopia in the north and we can have our jobs and fuel in the south.


5 posted on 11/24/2012 7:58:19 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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Why do they always have to throw the “Man of Color” card.

Good God, I don’t care if he’s purple with pink polka dots!

It ain’t his COLOR

It’s his COMMIE Stand on EVERYTHING!

Jesus...I need a drink now.


6 posted on 11/24/2012 8:02:32 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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Can we get away from this idiocy?

Time would be better spent recruiting candidates for every district Federal and state in the USA for the next cycle.

I believe secession was tried with disasterous results.


8 posted on 11/24/2012 8:11:18 PM PST by Patrick1 (“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”)
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Nothing can “force” this White House to respond to anything, particularly in any sort of timely fashion.


9 posted on 11/24/2012 8:11:18 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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Americans were stunned last week, coming to the startling reality that citizens from all 50 states, hundreds of thousands of signatories, thus far, have petitioned their state to secede from the union, with at least seven states, as of Sunday, having the 25,000 signatures necessary to, supposedly, officially force a White House response.

I wasn't stuned, I was laughing at how many idiots were taking this seriously.

11 posted on 11/24/2012 8:12:34 PM PST by Strategerist
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Have you asked Whoopie Goldberg for a comment? I wonder what she would say? /s


13 posted on 11/24/2012 8:17:27 PM PST by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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As some of us continue to rattle around in the echo chamber.

There is going to be no Civil War. There will be no arms in the streets. There will be no war. This is idiocy. And some better hope not because the U.S. would win in an instant. Putting aside the fact that a million pop guns are useless against the U.S., it is not just brute force against brute force. The Gov’t has the edge in disrupting communications, supplies ... creating disinformation. But that isn’t the point. This is not EVER going to happen. So, we can work on letting America know why Conservative governance is a good thing, or devolve into absurd conspiracy theories. Signing a bunch of online petition means, precisely, ZERO.

Good grief.


14 posted on 11/24/2012 8:19:45 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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Problem is, one side has 2,500 of these on order and that's just FEMA!


15 posted on 11/24/2012 8:20:23 PM PST by expat1000
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When the freebies quit coming, there are only you and me left!

Obama is not ‘black’, he is a ‘mullato’, or in baser terms, a ‘half-breed’.

He came to office to destroy this nation, because he sees America as
a colonial power, no different than his true target of hate,
England.

His idea of ‘fair share’, is a word left undefined,
so he can reject all suggestions, as not enough, but
never quite saying when enough is reached.

He believes Americs has no right to any status in the world.
This is a marxist utopian idea of no State being greater
or lesset than any other, thereby a Stat e cannot influence
another, without consent.

He has supplanted the Lord His God, with the State as God,
Deliverer, Sustainer, Provider. If yyour life cannot be utilized
by The State, you are not required, either from the womb,
or in senior years. The victims of Sandy, as they wait for Obama
aid, he waits until the costs to him have decreased, in s sickened
mind view.

Civil war, you say? No. Cleansing the nation of Canaanites,
Moabites, and those darn Philistines, all over, again.
Don’t forget all those Levites, who swore an oath, then turned
their backs on it!


16 posted on 11/24/2012 8:23:03 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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When the freebies quit coming, there are only you and me left!

Obama is not ‘black’, he is a ‘mullato’, or in baser terms, a ‘half-breed’.

He came to office to destroy this nation, because he sees America as
a colonial power, no different than his true target of hate,
England.

His idea of ‘fair share’, is a word left undefined,
so he can reject all suggestions, as not enough, but
never quite saying when enough is reached.

He believes Americs has no right to any status in the world.
This is a marxist utopian idea of no State being greater
or lesset than any other, thereby a Stat e cannot influence
another, without consent.

He has supplanted the Lord His God, with the State as God,
Deliverer, Sustainer, Provider. If yyour life cannot be utilized
by The State, you are not required, either from the womb,
or in senior years. The victims of Sandy, as they wait for Obama
aid, he waits until the costs to him have decreased, in s sickened
mind view.

Civil war, you say? No. Cleansing the nation of Canaanites,
Moabites, and those darn Philistines, all over, again.
Don’t forget all those Levites, who swore an oath, then turned
their backs on it!


19 posted on 11/24/2012 8:23:26 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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Did anybody read the article?

It claims that "the rich are getting richer while the poor are getting poorer".

It claims that the "military-industrial complex has also grown to historically out-of-control proportions".

It claims that Obama's bailout money didn't go to his union buddies. It claims that Obama's bailout money went to wall street and greedy coorporations.

Folks, this article is meant to misdirect the "revolutionaries". It's big government propaganda.

23 posted on 11/24/2012 8:27:40 PM PST by FreeReign
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Just simply won’t happen. Reason being, there are simply too many people loyal to the feds in individual states. Recognize that loyal agents to the fed could simply send the message to not bother trying by simply massacring the state governments before the secession actually happened, effectively taking out any potential leadership from a seceded state and ending the fight in a heartbeat.

What I can see is the liberal side getting more and more confident, and more and more militant, possibly to go to the extent of acting like a mob out of that increased confidence. The corrupt government will do little. No this nation won’t end with a simple Civil War, it will end with a whimper as everything falls apart into mass anarchy.


29 posted on 11/24/2012 8:42:08 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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“thanks to legislation like the “Patriot” Act, the NDAA and the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, for the first time Americans are now seeing US troops on the streets”

Where and when?

“Sick people and the terminally ill can be arrested for simply using natural substances, like marijuana, for temporary and sometimes permanent relief from their symptoms with very few proven, if any, harmful side effects.”

All my liberal psych text books are against the use of marijuana because of the danger of its side effects with long term use.

“Having a Ron Paul bumper-sticker can now be cause for one being labeled a terrorist and can give police a legitimate reason to pull them over”

Has this happened yet and are the standards still in place?

“The government can now spy on you, listen to your phone conversations, read your e-mail, break into your house and search your private property, arrest and detain you without probable cause, even torture you, all without a warrant and so many other examples of everyday circumstances that are giving way to an epic police state..”

Really?

“Unimaginable, humanitarian atrocities have been acted out by American and allied soldiers overseas and it is impossible to assume that this situation will make us more safe, either now or in the future, either physically or economically.”

Single incidents don’t make our wars the holocaust or abortion statistics.

“What’s going to happen when more and more people start realizing that the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and even Iran were all planned prior to the 9/11 terrorist attacks in lower Manhattan, for the purposes of carrying out a global control operation, called “Project for a New American Century,”

oooooooookay.

etc.

“If there is to be some sort of “civil” war, it’s not going to be between the left and right, the blacks and whites or the South and North, it’s going to eventually be between the people of the United States and those who have infiltrated the US and its government as sovereignty and freedom hating globalists and elite propagandists for a New World Order. Ironically, if you want to get technical, generally the same lineage of “elite” families and their minions that were the reason for the first American Revolution, the Declaration of Independence and the need for the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights in the first place.”

Does this guy write for Glenn Beck?


32 posted on 11/24/2012 8:46:21 PM PST by huldah1776
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Keep the Union but secede from the Government.

Declare the Federal Government invalid.

Rewrite the Constitution strenghening the Bill of Rights. The Second Amendment shall now be known as the first Right of the People, and shall read:

"We the People, declare unto ourselves the Right to keep and bear arms. This Right is uncontestable and shall not be infringed.

Declare term limits for each office. President, eight years consisting of two, four years term, Senate. eight years, consisting of two, four year terms by appointment of their respective State Legislature. Congress, 8 years consisting of four, two year terms.

Define Treason and its ramifications to those elected to hold office.

Define Natural Born Citizen and its ramifications on the office of the President.

Feel free to add your input. Let's see what we can come up with as our new Constitution.

35 posted on 11/24/2012 8:58:54 PM PST by 41Thunder (The SUPPLY of Government is GREATER than the DEMAND of the people)
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Thanks for this thread.

__________

HEY! Jeffrey, Jeffrey Phelps! Yeah, YOU!

In 2010 the Silent Majority had a Taxpayers Revolt.

In 2012 the GOP endorsed The Socialist Father of Romney’care’ to run against the Communist Father of Obama’care.’

In 2014 State Constitutional Conventions will convene.

BTW Jeffrey, the only ‘surprised’ people about the necessary secession are the Liberal Agenda Media Elite, or LAME.

You need to get out more, Jeffrey. Rent a van, bring your laptop, and come visit us each week here in Flyover Country. We will be happy to tell you ‘how the cow ate the cabbage.’ Put your folding money away, as your first cup of coffee will be on us.


37 posted on 11/24/2012 9:06:41 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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The topic is right on, but I was sadden to come to the realization that this article was choke full of libertarian talking points and libertarian idiocy. Like for example, a denial of 9/11. Blaming the war on terror on America and saying the world hates us for invading their countries. Too much Libertarian jargon. Libertarians talk about Liberty this and Liberty that and never say one lick about freedoms in our constitution.

There were parts of the article that were good though as the article went along. I would say it is right that a civil war is coming. So while this article is right with the bottomline and various points, it takes a Ron Paul loving libertarian take and thus is not factual with some of its points. Near the end of article it talks too much about Ron Paul as if this was a Alex Jones monologue on his radio show.


43 posted on 11/24/2012 9:55:52 PM PST by Mozilla
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Could it be as simple as conservatives and libertarians

Yeah, the most brilliant thing the left ever did, was to create the libertarians, they are the fifth column of the left.

45 posted on 11/24/2012 10:18:05 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb FischerÂ’s successful run in Nebraska)
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