Posted on 11/14/2012 10:57:52 AM PST by OddLane
There has been no shortage of commentary on the impact of the Hispanic vote on the election outcome. Much of the Republican post-election commentary has focused on the failure of Romney to gather a sufficient share of Hispanic support. Much of the discussion is confused.
Two factors decide the impact of the Hispanic vote. One is the percentage of Hispanics who vote Republican. The other is how many Hispanic voters there are. Empirically, variation in numbers was far more important than variation in voting patterns.
Romney did not lose because he lost the Hispanic vote in some unusual fashion. Rather, he lost because of rising number of Hispanics. In 1992 Hispanics were two percent of voters, in 2012 ten percent of voters. If the Hispanic vote share would have been what it was in 2000, let alone 1992. Romney would have won. Romney however would not have won with the vote share Bush got among Hispanics with the current composition of the electorate.
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Told my Columbian-American friend about O’s relationship with Chavez with pictures. She was appalled. She had no idea. I told her to tell her friends and she said she would.
I say, link ‘em to the tyrants people were trying to escape.
It doesn't work that way, Catholic Hispanics follow the tradition of Catholics voting democrat, Protestant Hispanics are close to a 50/50 republican block and (somewhat) closely follow the tradition of Protestants voting republican.
Republicans won 56% of the Protestant Hispanic vote in 2004, and 48% in 2008, we need to find out why, and try to expand on that.
Dear OddLane, there is no such thing as a Hispanic, and there is no Hispanic vote. In Florida, the Cuban exile community votes Republican because they know that the Dems are in bed with Fidel Castro. In states that border Mexico, the Mexicans vote for big government. In NY the Colombians vote for the Dems because they also love Castro. The Dominicans and Puerto Ricans vote Dem because they got folded unto the Black thing.
Even though you may think that Hispanics are pro family and traditionalists, that applies only to them. They come from unstable, corrupt countries where you get ahead by being part of a clan - think of them as Sicilians - how many of them voted Republican?
We have to tell the Mexican illegals to stop coming illegally and stop living here like it is a third world nation and importing their socialist behavior and thoughts into America. America can not afford to take on these many immigrants. We need the border fence.
And the legal Mexicans have to be re-educated because they come with little education or with the wrong education into the country and the children get taught wrong values and many end up living a hip-hop gangster lifestyle or a ranchero lifestyle.
Mexican and like minded Illegals will do whatever they can to work as long as the INS doesn’t get involved because they are illegal. It is slave-labor as they can work for 10 cents an hour and never have enough to eat. But they are illegal and have no rights as citizens because they are not citizens. So therefore, they are illegal. Not legal and have no right to legal things.
But making them all legal doesn’t work because they will be too many people to document and they will overwhelm the system. Cloward-Piven strategy.
There are a group of the Mexican immigrants who have no patriotism toward the USA. They are all about Mexico only and US be dammed.
Also, I completely rejected those assertions earlier in this thread, but okay...
I was born in Bolivia and came here legally at age 4 and I love the country and became conservative. I want fiscal discipline and the best for the place. I am American first and foremost. I see myself as a human being not as a part of just one group in America. I had a very American upbringing. I feel American. Throughout my whole life, I’ve never felt connected to one particular race or heritage, nor did I need to be accepted by any. Look like I grew up differently than the statist, neo-marxist clan coming through the border. Therefore not only do I not agree with them at all, I despise them.
Yeah, that should do it. Rolls eyes.........
It is slave-labor as they can work for 10 cents an hour and never have enough to eat.
In 1890 maybe. The illegals now days get paid plenty and typically pay no taxes.
As to never having enough to eat I also call BS. They are a roly-poly bunch and are usually good and drunk by 6:00pm. The good news is they don't let their drunkenness or lack of a license and insurance stop them from driving or raping women and children.
But making them all legal doesnt work
Damn right is doesn't work and it is a retarded idea. What we should really do is arm our southern border just like they arm theirs and shoot to kill just like they do. A few hundred buzzard magnets should fix things up nicely.
Here is another one of the illegal alien scumbags favorite things. A rape tree.
I’ve got it, we can give them a lowrider. Obama has his Obamaphone, but Republicans can promise a free lowrider!
Good points.
Many Hispanics are Catholics and that would make them more likely to be Republican party members.
Many Hispanics are very hard workers and that would make them more likely to be Republican party members.
Many Hispanics are family oriented and that would make them more likely to be Republican party members.
However, many Hispanics are poor and the Democrat party is the party of freebies and you cannot defeat Santa Claus giving away free money.
It doesn’t work that way only because it’s never been done yet. Let’s do some graphic descriptions of late term abortion procedures, and point out that all this is perfectly OK with the rats. Let’s make noise on a party level about the genocide that is being perpetrated on minorities by the rats.
I agree with you about that.
Country Club republicans and Catholics will never win over blacks and Hispanics, only conservatives, talking like blue collar conservatives can do that.
Hispanics and blacks will respond to social conservative appeals if they are delivered in plain, manly, bar type talk, I win over minorities when I talk about homosexuals and abortion, and porn and dope, in plain, street level language.
I think that is why Evangelicals do better winning over Hispanics, they speak plainly and openly to them, (plus they speak to them, period), most republican speak makes even my eyes glaze over.
Also we are on the cusp of the robotics age. The stoop jobs the illegals do are the first to go. The slave labor illegals won't go home, they'll go straight onto permanent welfare/foodstamps/section 8/voting Democrat. Why didn't we learn this expensive lesson from the last time we imported cheap automation substitutes?
Other than that, not sure what this brave new America portends.
There's nothing as permanent as a "temporary" guest-worker.
I don't know if there is a more Republican leaning county in the whole country than right here. And those "natural Democrats" are a majority here, go figure!
Thursday, November 15, 2012
Pew study says Latino voter numbers likely to spike in Illinois
IL Congressman Luis Gutierrez (D-4CD) is ramping up his push for comprehensive immigration reform in Barack Obama’s second term as president.
“There is pressure on Republicans to change their tune but there is also pressure on Democrats to deliver,” Gutierrez said on an NPR interview this week. “Latino voters put a lot of faith in President Obama and he has another four years because of that faith. But now he has to exert the muscle needed to forge the coalition of mostly Democrats and a few Republicans to get a bill passed and implemented.”
Along with Gutierrez push, a new Pew study indicates that in just one generation, the nation’s Latino vote will skyrocket to 40 million. Illinois is one of the states which will add to the annual combined number of 800,000 new Latino voters:
http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/
This is one of the reasons Illinois is so far gone.
The entire state has gradually been transformed into Chicago-and will probably get much worse in the years ahead.
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