Posted on 11/12/2012 8:55:59 AM PST by marcbold
I am stunned that I was stunned by the election.
I am a fool. I convinced myself that the polls were not real. I convinced myself that the world I see around me every day is not real. I hoped for a redemptive moment without seeing any penitence. You can't have one without the other.
I, along with countless others, have been trying to figure out how President Obama managed to win a second term.
Trying to discover the key statistic that would explain the defeat has become a cottage industry over the past week. Every pundit on every side has a theory, women, minorities, Hispanics, voter turnout machines, etc. All wrong. But I figured it out.
I have been trying to figure out what the problem is all week, and then I finally did. The problem is you.
You, you Catholics. You are the problem...
(Excerpt) Read more at ncregister.com ...
Blacks, Hispanics, and single mothers are a much bigger problem than Catholics.
He never even countered 0bama’s stand on the issues contrary to Catholic principles.
His homily this past Sunday, on how we're making a big deal over nothing, was frightening.
Some parishioners walked out.
I'm considering formally complaining. I just need to know where to direct my concern.
Unfortunately some of the clergy are touchy-feely like you stated. I wonder if it has something to do with never having to compete. Their jobs are forever and they preach social justice BS. I think you should complain. Voting for a pro abortion Marxist is totally against Catholic principles. I guess some churches just have a more liberal clergy.
The role of the Bishops is to save souls not to save the Republican party. Who is the party guilty of committing the abortion sin - mother, doctor, politician, voter?
love this! and i agree... most Catholics i know are Democrat first, Catholic second... and that includes just about every member of my family... :(
Archbold,
i live in an Hispanic city in CT. Even here, not a swing state, only a hot House seat: Obamba got more votes than ‘08 because he added more to the food stamp rolls, used the federal govt to get 2000 of them registered, and then used the entire apparatus to mobilize them to vote. It was a tidal wave of new voters.
They “expanded the electorate” by “strengthening the progressive infrastructure” ... and four more years await for him to “fundamentally transform America”. They are transforming the electorate. Permanently.
This process will continue as we move toward 2016. There are an endless supply of potential new voters. They come from all over the world to get here.
Sad to say, but it must be said. American Catholics are become much like American Jews in that their true religion is liberalism.
That's such a perfect summary of the liberal mentality: "The problem is you." All problems are always "you," singular or plural; no problems are ever "me."
In addition to its being pathetic, this attitude is debilitating, because it offers no hope for doing anything about the problem. "The problem is you!" and then the person just sits there, pleased with his own lack of responsibility.
If you say, "The problem is me," the obvious next thought is, "What could I do differently to make an improvement?" and from there, a whole life of conscious agency can grow.
Many Catholics have self-excommunicated themselves and have been turned over to a reprobate mind as St. Paul wrote in his letter to the Romans in Chapter 1. They are now gone.
Blacks are static in growth, but Catholics are flooding into our nation by the millions, and Catholics have always voted democrat, with only 5 or 6 exceptions in our history.
Catholic immigration is costing us state after state.
I talked to a Catholic friend who planned to vote for Obama. I tried numerous times to talk her out of it, but she said even though she wouldn’t have an abortion, she wouldn’t feel right about keeping someone else from getting one, and that God would judge them for what they did. I mentioned adoption as an alternative to abortion because her grandson was adopted as a baby...but that didn’t work either. She’s a faithful Mass goer, but I couldn’t get through.
On the other hand, our pastor spoke fervently and frequently about why we must vote with the party of pro-life, pro-Israel, and anti-gay marriage, and yet there are folks in our church that I know voted for Obama. Their reasoning was not logical, nor Biblical. They were beyond convincing saying Jesus would have stood with the poor, and that was what Obama wanted to do...they didn’t care that the Dems advocated killing babies...just weird and a bit surreal when talking to them.
I would count those Catholics as Hispanic, but you are right about that. The Mexican influx of people will not help Republicans.
It certainly won't help Republicans if Republicans insist on treating Mexican immigrants as subhuman.
But that's OK. Just keep on trashing the damn caffliks ... they're not really people anyway.
See how that works out for you.
Catholic is a single denomination, a single church under a single authority, and cadre, and America has to figure out a way to get them to vote like non-Catholic Christians.
We went to a Catholic Mass the Saturday evening before the election. A letter from the Bishop was read to the diverse but significantly Hispanic congregation. The presiding priest prefaced his reading of the letter with a mea culpa (if you will).
I really didn’t think the Bishop’s letter was as clear as it might have been as to which candidate(s) supported abortion and which opposed. Like the GOP, the Bishop seems to have placed a lot of stock in the intelligence of the electorate/congregation.
In my area it was not Hispanics as much as the assortment of union hacks who typically inhabit the pews. The pastor read a bland, nonsensical statement which would have left all but the most engaged wondering just what the heck the Bishops were trying to tell them about this election.
The thing is so many “Catholics” only say they are. They don’t practice Catholicism, nor do they follow the rules. I think it’s similar to the way many “Jews” are. CINO’s and JINO’s.
You're dead wrong, and until you accept that you're wrong, and understand why your approach is wrong, you'll just keep spinning your wheels.
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