Posted on 11/09/2012 5:15:38 PM PST by therightliveswithus
President Obama must have run the greatest campaign in the history of campaigns (and he's been telling us he did too). First he got over 99% of the vote in places where GOP inspectors were kicked out in Pennsylvania, then he got 100% of the vote in 21 districts in Cleveland. Now he's done it again!
Down in Broward County, Florida, Mr. Obama came away with more votes than he garnered in 2008, a particularly staggering accomplishment considering he received fewer state-wide totals in both Florida and across the country.
How exactly did he accomplish this? Well, in part thanks to Broward County Precincts L024 to L029 (though I'm sure it's all a coincidence that this happened to precincts all in order).
In those precincts combined, all in order, Mr. Obama won over 99% of the vote, defeating Mitt Romney 5,392 to... 54. Golly, how lucky! This especially impressive because in precincts L019-L022 (L023 doesn't exist) Mr. Romney did over 14 times better than in L024-L029, and the precinct after, did 30 times better.
But hey, is Florida that important in the race for the Presidency?
all 1,028 only voted for President.
obvious fraud!!
where is the GOP??
GOP you are dead to me if you don’t do anything about this
If these numbers are true, they will bubble to the public.
We got hoaxed @ American Thinker today (Through duffle blog - AT aplogized.) Yes there’s fraud, but if it’s this scale, and it’s sourced, then it will make it to the press.
Until then, I suggest we keep our reputations as sane individuals, mention it as floating out there until we see a document showing it.
Fraud? Sure - that’s one bet. Stupid electorate - that’s another bet. I’ll take both bets, but I’ll bet that “stupid electorate” is our real problem.
Regarding your concern about the machines defaulting to Obama and maybe casting a vote before corrected to Romney:
We have computerized voting in my Northern VA county (don’t like it at all). You touch screen the candidate’s name you want to vote for and then press the “next” button. The machine asks you to review all of your choices before hitting a final button to cast your vote.
In other words, no worries about multiple votes being cast for Obama.
I imagine the electronic readers of the paper ballots could be rigged just as easily as computer voting. I don’t know what the answer is for preventing fraud.
Amen.
I say return to the pen and paper.
If the optical scanners can be so easily hacked, use the same paper ballots currently use and count them by hand with representatives of all candidates present at all times during the counting process. Disputed votes can go to an arbitrator, but in the large majority of elections, the numbers of disputed votes should be so small as to not affect the outcome.
Better to wait a few days for the counting to end then allow the other side to cheat its way into power.
If Obama is allowed to be President this way, then WE are encouraging such behavior.
Yes and Yes. Other suggestions: (1) Get rid of early voting! It's only an inducement to more chating. (2) Voter ID cards. (3) No same day registration. (4) Registrants must prove their age and citizenship with appropriate documents before they get their voter ID.
Very good suggestions!
Ping
With popular vote you bring up the possibility of effective national advertising with a positive message (a message Obama did not have). Voter suppression ads can be targeted to specific markets. I can’t help but believe that Romney could have pulled more votes from blue states had he only tried.
A lot of us were "shell shocked" because were---at least in our county---were NOT told that in 2010 they consolidated polling places, putting one table with two sets of workers (i.e., two stations) where there used to be four. This 50% reduction in staff slowed the process down dramatically, hence we saw lines and thought "voter turnout," when in fact was a normal (even substandard) turnout made to look big by inefficient poll workers due to the smaller numbers of these workers.
Moreover, I think that while all the numbers of absentee/early votes were lower than 08 as we predicted, they were still higher than I expected coming out of early voting.
Franklin CO., which had over 100k Ds vote in 08, had only 60k, but that's still a big lead to overcome just from one county.
If there is a conspiracy answer, then there is never a need to confront the real problems which are that right now the US is a left to center-left country and they flat have more voters who believe in their message of free stuff.
Then they will say if you are against FRAUD you are a RACIST, but WEST can pull the RACE CARD as well.
It is doubtful that there are any 99% Obama precincts from Broward in West’s FL-18; those precincts must be close to 100% black, and surely they were placed in one of the two black-majority CDs in South FL (the Alcee Hastings CD and the Fredericka Wilson CD).
I think he legally won as well, now the question is what is he going to do about it? I'm sure he sees these results. He was by far my first choice as well.
Romney needs to take this fight on, by golly he has the money, Trump has the money and others that would be more than glad to chip in, take it to the Supreme Court if necessary before Obama seats another. BUSH was pushed all the way up, and he won.
Romney has a legitimate fight, come on Romney take back your consession, make that call.
Yes, the MSM after the 'Rats "win" is ranting on and on about women, single women in particular. As I've commented before, too many of them choose their candidate as if they are contestants on "The Dating Game."
With respect to "stupid and ignorant," yes, that's a very good point. Go back to the 1990s and Murray and Herrnstein's best selling book, "The Bell Curve." The left derided it as "racist," but the major theme of it, still true now, was that the average IQ of the American population was in decline, because intelligence is largely hereditary and lower IQ people were having more children than upper IQ people. Lower IQ was also associated with a greater probability of a wide variety of social pathologies for society as a whole. Surely you need a reasonable intelligence level in the general population to maintain a free republic. Then, too, environment influences intelligence (though to a lesser extent than heredity) and there, the quality of formal education in the schools is inferior to what it was for previous generations of Americans.
Disclaimer: None of the above refers to the FR women here, who are obviously a highly intelligent bunch.
Uneffin’ believable...
and I hope some FReepers on here read this...
I’m sick of being ridiculed for thinking this election was stolen...
When Obutthead spoke to Medeved on open mic, he said “after the election I’ll have more flexibility...”
not “if I win” or “when I win”...HE KNEW!!!!!!
WE should complain to the U.N.
Yes, Mitt is such a nice guy he couldn't bring himself to go after O as hard as he went after Rick, Newt and Perry. He is just too good a guy. We should be proud.
But don't despair. We still have NICE guy Boehner running the house and he will be civil and maybe do some crying and he may sell us out again but he will make us proud being so civil. That is what counts.
:)
Couldn't resist taking that one!
Good for you...
I’ve been a “victim” of some of those sentiments...
LOL! Yeah, they'll jump right on the case!
That doesn't jive with the annual Gallup poll which consistently over at least a decade has roughly 40% of the population describing themselves as "conservative," 20% liberal, and the rest "moderate" or unwilling to say. I'd say that's a pretty good base for conservatives to build on.
If there is a conspiracy answer, then there is never a need to confront the real problems...
Yes, there are "real problems." But if there is massive fraud that determined the election outcome, there's no shame in discussing it. We can walk and chew gum at the same time, can't we?
Btt
I’m trying to repost this on all the threads re: St. Lucie
from snowislander as to a possible explanation for the turnout numbers. (food for thought, Broward didn’t report their votes like that, but i suppose each county may be different?)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2957810/posts?page=51
Each voter received two ballot cards Florida had a large number of constitutional amendments proposed, and it required two ballots to cover all of the races and amendments.
The first two pages of the “Statement of Votes Cast” report are somewhat misleading when they show “cards cast” as exceeding 100%, and do not indicate blatant fraud. You should divide “cards cast” by two to get the number of voters participating.
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