Posted on 11/08/2012 7:53:08 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama
We lost.
We the People got our teeth kicked down our throat.
I know that sounds harsh, but let's face it fellow Republicans, we're members of a party that failed to defeat a racist, dog-eating, homosexual agenda pushing piece of human garbage who isn't qualified to be a cashier at 7-11, let alone be President of the United States. We, the party of strong economies and national defense, failed as a party to dislodge an economically illiterate man who hates the US military with a passion. In short, this election was an absolute train wreck that may very well destroy the Republic.
Why did this happen, and more importantly, who do we blame ?
The Republican party, like a kid who can't sit still, refuses to learn. Moderate Republicanism and RINOs suck. They're about as exciting as lukewarm bath water. They stand for absolutely nothing. And yet, time and time again, ever since Reagan, they're all the Republican party offers on the presidential stage. Bob Dole ran a tepid, lackluster campaign in 1996 that ended in defeat, as did John McCain in 2008, and Mitt Romney in 2012. Yes Bush I and II won, but let's face the cold hard reality about them. Bush I shed his Reaganite skin like a rattlesnake the moment Ronaldus Magnus went back to his ranch and proceeded to lose to accused rapist Bill Caligula. Bush II won and was magnificent on the War on Terror, but was Herbert Hoover on domestic policy.
To this day, I still have no idea what any of the above folks ran on. (Except for the 2004 election, when it was rather clear it was either Bush or pray to Mecca.) Bush I ? He was Reagan's Veep. Bob Dole ? No idea. Bush II's first run ? I dunno, I voted for Pat Buchanan because it wasn't Conservative, whatever it was. John McCain ? Well, it was his turn. Romney ? He wasn't the guy who bowed to the inbred king of Saudi Arabia. They never gave me a real reason to support them, other than party loyalty. That's a horrid reason to vote for anyone. What's worse, they never gave libertarians, paleocons, Reagan Democrats, or independents a reason to vote for them, either. And hence, they lost (except for Bush II) and in some cases, in a rather embarrassing fashion.
Ladies and gentlemen, the reality of the situation is this: We the People need to take back the Republican party before we do anything else. We need to take over our local Republican parties and send the RINOs packing. Is it easier said than done ? Yep, but what choice do we have ? A third party won't save the day. Working with the communists in the Democrat party is unthinkable for a variety of obvious reasons. We need to stand up and say, "Dont Tread On Me."
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(I'm writing that one down; and may commit digital theft thereof...hey...least I'm an 'honest thief')
Cool links. I’ll dig into them ASAP.
Exactly.
Hmmm, let's reverse roles for a moment on this one.
Whenever, the social-issues "base" of the party has threatened to pull out, we've heard the RINO reminder: "Where are you going to go? The Democrats?"
So...perhaps it's time for the social-issues conservatives and the tea party to unite as a solid coalition and ask the RINOs: "Where are you going to go? The Democrats? The Libertarians? The Green Party?"
We'll let you stay as trench foot soldiers & be the ones expected to eventually compromise your principles, whatever's left of them that is, for a change...
Hey, no worries . . . I used to be a John Bircher.
That is not true. The party does stand for a couple things. Not those that you'd expect it to stand for, though. Both parties stand for one thing: for power, for control of the country. Not for much else.
And yet, time and time again, ever since Reagan, they're all the Republican party offers on the presidential stage.
They offer "their men." If they win - good. If not then it's still OK. The party still gets seats in Congress and can do things. When you have only two parties, and when those two parties only struggle for the *exact* division of the pie between them, then we have this problem. The party lost because it didn't really want to win. It didn't have to.
To this day, I still have no idea what any of the above folks ran on.
They ran on something that does not go against the interests of both parties. Ron Paul made some waves, where is he? Herman Cain made some small waves, where is he? A "radical" candidate cannot be nominated. The secret is simple: only the candidate who nobody cares about is going to be nominated. Who took Herman Cain out? Was it D, or was it R?
We the People need to take back the Republican party before we do anything else.
It's minimally possible. The party does not belong to the members of the party. It belongs to the functionaries of the party. It's their plaything.
There is a deeper problem, though. Regardless of the party, the popular vote is still for Obama. It means that people of this country want Obama's money. He just bought them. If the party suddenly comes to its senses and nominates a great candidate (say, Sarah Palin) the end result will be exactly the same: 51% of the country will vote for free money. Why shouldn't they? Especially if Sarah immediately announces that her government will make people work! Imagine that audacity, make them WORK! They don't need your WORK, they are doing fine living on Obama's money, thank you very much. Obama voters will stop voting for Obama only when they will be better off with someone else. But Obama opened the spigot of national debt and offered the proceeds to the people. How can you outdo this? Especially when a responsible leader will call for tightening of the belt, for working harder, for making products - not for printing money as if there is no tomorrow.
So there are two problems: first, existing R's are no good, and second, people don't want R's of any sort anyway. You have to solve both problems at the same time, otherwise Sarah will lose to a newcomer who promises to open Fort Knox to the rabble. (I guess that would be perfectly safe, though, since there is nothing inside.)
I personally suspect that there are only the following solutions. One is in political separation; another is letting the illness take its course. Eventually the government runs out of other people's money - and then the same rabble that elected it will happily burn it down. That always happens when you pander to the crowd.
Interestingly enough, the same problem - incompatible view on life - is seen in marriages. Divorces are legal, and that's the most popular solution. But a divorce on the scale of the USA is practically impossible. The conservatives are just a minority, on par with Indians or immigrants. Why would anyone care what the minority wants? In other words, I think it can't get better until it gets worse - much worse. If you look at USSR, they were never a healthy society. But it took the system almost a century to rot and die. The new system, somewhat more sane, was able to rise only on the rubble of the old one.
1. Yep. Voted for him in the primary. I would have been more than happy with Santorum or Bachmann as well.
2. Krispy Kreme is a disaster and his keynote speech sucked. Scott Walker or Allen West would have been a knock out punch.
3. I’d rather we pick on real people like Nazi Pelosi, Steny Hoyer, etc.
4. Nice guys finish last for a reason.
5. Agreed wholeheartedly.
6. Agreed wholeheartedly again.
7. You’re on a roll.
It is what it is, FRiend. It is what it is.
LOL!
If you think raising Taxes is about fairness, you are way off the mark. The only Fair Tax is a Flat Tax since income is gained from labor. The larger percentage you pay, the more you are an economic slave to the Government.
Why stop at taking 39% from the Evil Rich? Make it 100%, but it doesn't mean you will get any of it.
I can’t dispute anything you’ve said, but I think the horrors of Obamacareless may scare just enough of them straight.
Or maybe I’m dead wrong. Your scenario is 1000% correct.
Either way, I’m not giving up. It may be a fool’s errand, but what the heck ? What do I have to lose ?
If Sarah doesn’t want to put her family through a presidential campaign (which is beyond understandable given what kind of animals are on the left), wouldn’t she be a great person to lead the RNC ?
Arizona wouldn’t be a bad idea, either.
Any chance Jan Brewer is interested in throwing her hat in ? I think she’s fantastic, but I don’t live in Arizona. You’re the expert. What do you think ?
PS-—Thanks for the kind words!
Trust me. I’m not an expert on anything. I predicted a much different election outcome.
I’ll call/email and see what response I get. It’d probably have to go through the RNC first, come to think of it. We’ll see what happens.
Use it in good health, FRiend!
Keep me posted, FRiend!
Romney was a excellent candidate, but the GOP can not unite like the Dems do.
Romney was a terrible candidate. No killer instinct. No charisma. No plan.
By the way, he lost.
Good candidates win. Bad candidates lose. It’s as cut and dried as that.
There’s just too much analyses and hand-wringing going on. There’s essentially one simple reason conservatives lost: we were out lied.
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