Posted on 10/29/2012 6:00:47 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
The official story surrounding the events of September 11, 2012 in Bengzahi, Libya which left four Americans dead, has now officially fallen apart.
After numerous flips and flops by the Obama administration, which originally attempted to paint the incident as a Muslim outcry over an anti-Islamic video, whistle blowers throughout the U.S. government, including within the White House, the State Department, national intelligence agencies and the U.S.military have made available stunning details that suggest not only did operational commanders have live visual and audio communications from drones overhead and intelligence assets on the ground, but that some commanders within the military were prepared to go-it-alone after being told to “stand down.”
Africom commanding officer U.S. General Carter Ham, after being ordered to essentially surrender control of the situation to alleged Al Queda terrorists and let Americans on the ground die, made the unilateral decision to ignore orders from the Secretary of Defense and activated special operations teams at his disposal for immediate deployment to the area.
According to reports, once the General went rogue he was arrested within minutes by his second in command and relieved of duty.
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“(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told Pentagon reporters. “And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”
The information I heard today was that General Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.
General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.
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The question now is whether the American people will hold to account the chain of command responsible for leaving our people behind, fabricating a politically expedient story, and continuing to sell the now defunct lie(s) even after all of their variations of the story were found to be false and misleading.
A General who made the decision to assist diplomatic and intelligence assets on the ground has been arrested and will likely be retired or worse, while those who ordered the removal of embassy security details and ordered U.S. forces to stand-down are left to go on about their business and likely risk more American lives in the future.
In some circles the actions of those at the very top of the command structure during the Bengzahi attacks would be considered traitorous.
Democrats: it’s time to take the long walk to the White House. Now we know why Obama has been busy overthrowing governments in the Middle East. Now, everyone will see the money. He hasn’t been charged, yet. He could resign and go to Cuba. Nobody would come to get him. If this thing goes to hearings and trials, it’s the end of the Democrat party. I know it’s tough, but is he more important than the party?
Whatever happened to that tried and true military axiom of get there “the first with the most.” McCain is right about one aspect of this... if there were no military assets at a state of readiness, in that part of the world, on that particular day, after the events of the preceding months... WHY??!!!
Official denials
UPDATE: On Sunday October 28 I received the following communique from Pentagon Press Secretary George Little:
“The insinuations in your story are flat wrong. General Ham is an outstanding leader of AFRICOM. Future leadership changes at this important command have absolutely nothing to do with the attack on American personnel in Benghazi. The leadership changes have been long planned.”
Of course I never suggested that General Ham was anything other than an outstanding leader of AFRICOM and in fact said as much. But why is an outstanding leader of this important command leaving after less than two years when all other combatant commanders have longer tenures? General Ham’s predecessor stayed in the job much longer and was generally less well regarded. Further discussion of these issues may help begin to restore the administration’s credibility on the Benghazi issue.
UPDATE 2: On Monday October 29 General Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff, released the following statement:
“The speculation that General Carter Ham is departing Africa Command (AFRICOM) due to events in Benghazi, Libya on 11 September 2012 is absolutely false. General Ham’s departure is part of routine succession planning that has been on going since July. He continues to serve in AFRICOM with my complete confidence.”
Read more: TRR: Is a General losing his job over Benghazi? - Washington Times http://p.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/oct/28/general-losing-his-job-over-benghazi/#ixzz2AkJzUtB7
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With that list of Benghazi links, you’ve made Travis Mcgees top 2000 list.
With that list of Benghazi links, you’ve made Travis Mcgees top 2000 list.
I agree, BUT what is more credible about reporting things on the DemCommies? The LA Time, NY Times, Washington Post? Or some obscure blogger.
In today’s world, the bloggers generally win.
I am not saying this is a reliable source.
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Now, there is enough smoke surrounding Bengazi that some need to be tried & punished.
Totally agree. This Benghazi thing stinks to high heaven and I don’t know HOW in the WORLD they can keep it contained.
Unless there is not a shred of integrity left in the military or intelligence community, someone whistleblower(s) will have to speak out.
“Why is he still listed as commander of Africom? Wouldn’t that be confusing the troops and other concerned parties?”
What I read somewhere is that General Ham was relieved of duty and still technically listed as “in Charge” because it takes Congress to approve his replacement and that hasn’t been voted on yet. Don’t know if that is right or not though.
The report linked in the blog article is The Washington Times (Times 24/7)
Is a U.S. general losing his job over Benghazi?
http://times247.com/articles/is-a-general-losing-his-job-over-benghazi#ixzz2AkOfRqYL
My blood pressure just went sky high.
So has the Lame Stream Media.
The admiral arrived back in Everett WA base. The local media covered it but did not disclose why he was relieved of duty.
Now if he had been accused of fraternization with the split tail section of his crew, you know he'd be all over the news....hourly.
holy crap!!!
can we get any verification that they were both arrested and relieved to keep them from defending our embassy?
My comment was so ludicrous I thought /sarc> to not be necessary! ;)
My comment was so ludicrous I thought /sarc> to not be necessary! ;)
Thanks for the hotlinks!
I doubt it. but you might find this interesting:
TRR: General at center of Benghazi-gate controversy retiring
“The questions concerning General Ham’s role in the September 11 events continue to percolate. Congressman Jason Chaffetz, Utah Republican, said that General Ham told him during a visit to Libya that he had never been asked to provide military support for the Americans under attack in Benghazi. Former United States Ambassador to the U.N. John R, Bolton also mentioned Mr. Chaffetz’s account, and contrasted it with Mr. Panetta’s statement that General Ham had been part of the team that made the decision not to send in forces. “General Ham has now been characterized in two obviously conflicting ways,” Mr. Bolton concluded. “Somebody ought to find out what he actually was saying on September the eleventh.”
No word yet on when General Ham’s rotation or retirement take effect.”
The public knows better. Obama and Panetta and Hillary would have to given the order.
They murdered 4 Americans and watched. It’s that simple. Can we say treason.
Here is the link to an ABC news blog post. Came from Drudge a few days ago, name is Rear Adm. Charles M Gaouette
http://abcnews.go.com/politics/t/blogEntry?id=17580635
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