[Red Steel]

This DC Federal judge states the obvious to anyone who has seriously studied this issue.

[Hardraade]

Muslims and Arabs, Arabs and Muslims - why do you allow them in the country??

[Tennessee Nana]

PING

[Qwackertoo]

Paging Mitt Romney, Fox News and anybody else that will listen. Oh Donald Trump, please pick up the red phone.

I pray I live long enough to see Obama shown as the fraud he is.

[centurion316]

The overwhelming conventional wisdom among the Judiciary is that the 14th Amendment modified the natural born citizen definition to mean Jus Solis , or born on the soil of the United States without regard to the citizenship of the parents. This widespread belief is one of the reasons why the courts have scoffed at any challenge to Obama's eligibility. If this ruling were upheld by the higher courts, it would cause problems for Obama, but, of course, would come too late to make any difference.

My guess is that this opinion will not hold.

[longtermmemmory]

This does nothing about establishing a third type of citizenship. It only says there are two. A naturalized person can not run for president is still law. This has nothing to do with the “birther” issue of obama. This is some kook who was trying to run for president and obtain “free money”. The five other cases were all his and all on the same issues.

This was a waste and should have been headlined less deceptivly.

[phockthis]

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[Venturer]

Obama will be sending some people over to talk to the Judge.

[SvenMagnussen]

Obama went to Indonesia as an American and came back to America as an Indonesian. In 1983, Obama naturalized as U.S. Citizen.

Obama is ineligible to be POTUS or VP because of his Certificate of Naturalization.

[Seizethecarp]

Per DC Circuit Judge Sullivan:

“Moreover, the Supreme Court has consistently held that the distinction between natural born citizens and naturalized citizens in the context of Presidential eligibility remains valid.”

I don't recall any such SCOTUS holding “in the context of Presidential eligibility,” rather only holdings relating to NBC issues concerning persons who were not presidential candidates, such as Mrs. Minor, or Elk and Elg.

[null and void]

Constitutional Eligibility

[DiogenesLamp]

AWESOME!!! That's what we have been telling these idiots. The 14th Amendment did NOT REPEAL Article II requirements. Natural born citizens are NOT CREATED by the action of the 14th amendment. They exist independently of any action by the 14th amendment.

Any citizen who is only a citizen through the action of the 14th amendment is not a "natural citizen." Any citizen who is only a citizen through subsequent acts of legislation are also not "natural citizens". They are instead naturalized citizens so created through the explicit powers granted to congress to create naturalize citizens.

We are making progress. It's slow, but we are steadily making progress.

Now all we have to do is prove that the many thousands of British loyalists who were born in the United States, remained British citizens, and not US Citizens, and that both Nations recognized this fact.

[djf]

Many have tried to say there is only one type of citizenship you can get from birth.

This is simply not true.

A person who has “citizenship” because of the 14th amendment may or in fact may not be a “natural born citizen”.

The operation of the 14th amendment CANNOT make a person who would otherwise not be a “natural born citizen” into a natural born citizen. No operation of law or statute can do that.

[Seizethecarp]

Here is the quote followed by the citations by Judge Sullivan:

“Moreover, the Supreme Court has consistently held that the distinction between naturalborn citizens and naturalized citizens in the context of Presidential eligibility remains valid.

“See Schneider v. Rusk, 377 U.S. 163, 165 (1964) (“The only difference drawn by theConstitution is that only the ‘natural born’ citizen is eligibleto be President.”);

see also Knauer v. United States, 328 U.S.654, 658 (1946) (same);

Baumgartner v. United States, 322 U.S.665, 673-674 (1944) (same).”

Even Judge Sullivan doesn't think this case opens any new ground. The plainfiff was born in Guyana presumably to two non-US citizen parents, so the case is not on point with Barry's claimed US birth. Only a new case decided before Barry is inaugurated the second time (at the latest) can impact Barry.

[phockthis]

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