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Modern wheat a "perfect, chronic poison," doctor says
CBS News ^ | September 3, 2012

Posted on 09/29/2012 5:32:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I read the article. I know people who are all about food politics, and I’m tired of the terminology being used in this debate.

Do people eat too much grain? Probably. But I don’t think that warrants it being labeled a toxin, and the government getting involved telling me how much bread I can eat.


21 posted on 09/29/2012 5:48:49 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I gave up all wheat around June 1 because of IBS. I have lost over 20 pounds. I am kind of stuck right now and would like to lose more, I guess I will have to walk the rest off.


22 posted on 09/29/2012 5:49:06 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe Bloomberg will save us: ban sandwiches with more than one slice of wheat bread!


23 posted on 09/29/2012 5:49:31 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: basil

I’m not entirely clear on the reason, but many, many people do not digest wheat well. This isn’t a “peanut” allergy, there isn’t a real noticeable bad reaction, but this is not a fad. I lost 30 lbs by pretty much just quitting eating bread and pasta, things I liked very much. And I definitely eat more and more often than before I quit, but just getting rid of bread lost me a lot of pounds. It’s those carbs...they cause an undesirable digestive & hunger cycle that’s not beneficial. I’m not going to claim I can explain why it has this effect, but on many people, it does.


24 posted on 09/29/2012 5:49:37 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: Shadow44
Coeliac will pretty well control how you eat ~ first, no wheat, barley or rice. Else your villiae in your intestines will be killed by our t-cells. They take 3 days to grow back. in the meantime you will get no nutrition from your food. enough of this and you'll starve or have a very miserable and short life, and might even develop bowl cancer.

laughing at it or imagining coeliac to be a leftwingtard power conspiracy is just weird.

25 posted on 09/29/2012 5:53:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Shadow44

Didn’t you know? Food is “bad for you”.


26 posted on 09/29/2012 5:54:10 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gliaden is one of the issues for we celiacs, and the initial bloodtest does measure this.

This is a cardiologist selling his book. While there may or may not be merit to what he is claiming, the involved motives are somewhat suspect.

My wife and I don’t necessarily mind the fad gluten free diet, since it makes it easier for us to find a greater amount of food that doesn’t make me or the twins sick. But I do sometimes worry about the after-effect when the fad disappears. While some people might see some benefit from adopting the diet, for myself and two of the fearsome fivesome, it’s an absolute necessity.


27 posted on 09/29/2012 5:55:52 PM PDT by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: EternalVigilance

Davis makes a compelling case in his book that the wheat we eat today isn’t even close to the wheat that was first called the staff of life some 2000+ years ago. Not just in its processed form but on the plant itself. And, in fact it is damaging to your health. Apparently there are a few strains that come close, but they are not easy to come by.

The whole grains movement, a lot like the low-fat movement, have resulted in a fatter, less healthy population, with more government/corporate control over what we eat.

It may not be necessary for you, but if it is working for a lot of people (and it is), let it be.


28 posted on 09/29/2012 5:56:30 PM PDT by newheart (At what point does policy become treason?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m a physician who bought into some of Dr. Davis’ and others ideas.

My weight fell from 207 to 168 pounds with very little else changing for me other than tossing out anything with wheat in it and eating more raw nuts. I made few other dietary modifications including limiting potatoes and other grains. I definitely didn’t increase exercise and if anything was working more than ever.

I’m a believer in a grain free diet. My blood pressure normalized without medications, my HDL increased.


29 posted on 09/29/2012 5:57:40 PM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; phockthis; MarMema; gorush; driftdiver


Here's a recipe for chocolate cake you might try:

Chickpea Chocolate Cake:

2 cups of drained and rinsed chickpeas 1/3 cups of orange juice

4 large eggs, at room temperature 3/4 cup of brown sugar 1/2 cup of cocoa powder 2 tsp. baking powder 1 tsp. baking soda

Puree chickpeas and orange juice in processor. Add eggs one at a time. Add last 4 ingredients and process until well blended.

Pour into a well-greased 8 inch cake pan. Bake at 350 for 50 minutes. Cool 15 min . before removing from pan.

Good cake. My wife bakes one occasionally.
30 posted on 09/29/2012 5:57:45 PM PDT by caveat emptor (Zippity Do Dah)
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To: muawiyah

I’m well aware of Celiac disease. There’s a difference between people who have it, and those who use buzzwords to try and get the government involved in dictating diets.

I have a lethal Peanut allergy, but I don’t go around saying that Peanuts are poisonous and that the general public should stop eating them.


31 posted on 09/29/2012 5:59:17 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: sayuncledave

IIRC, wasn’t Dr. Atkins a “cardiologist selling his book” as well?


32 posted on 09/29/2012 6:01:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here is my very unscientific opinion:
It's not the wheat! It's all the other crap in processed food where wheat may be the dominant ingredient.

For instance: Frozen pizza or frozen spaghetti dinner. Is it the wheat or all the other questionable ingredients?

Of course you would feel better when you start eating “real” food. Think of all the processed food you can't eat when you are “wheat free.”

Give us this day our daily bread. Personally, I make my own and it is to die for!!!!

33 posted on 09/29/2012 6:05:18 PM PDT by GrannyAnn
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To: driftdiver

Think about it.

Wheat is a seed. Basically, a type of grass seed.

And it does not benefit at all if it gets chewed up and digested. Not like some other seeds (fruit seeds) that use animals eating it to spread it around and boost the fertility.

But it does benefit wheat if it contains toxins or proteins that cause grief to anything that eats it.

If wheat grains wanted to get eaten, it wouldn’t be wheat.

It’d be a strawberry!


34 posted on 09/29/2012 6:06:08 PM PDT by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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To: Shadow44

Don’t eat candy bars ~ that’s all i gotta’ say ~ and you know what i mean.


35 posted on 09/29/2012 6:10:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: sayuncledave
The good news is the incidence is increasing ~ your chance of developing it increases with age. They don't quite know what the deal is, but it probably has to do with some quite ordinary process where genes are turned on or off.

The bad news is they keep pumping more gluten into wheat ~

36 posted on 09/29/2012 6:12:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: djf

Peas do the same thing ~ over time we’ve developed toxin free varieties but down in the Sahel they still keep the old nasty ones that make you go blind ~ they plant them in the bad years because they’ll grow with little water. Then they eat them and go blind


37 posted on 09/29/2012 6:14:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: sayuncledave

“This is a cardiologist selling his book.”

If he was a good cardiologist he would have so much money and work he wouldn’t have time or the necessity to write a book!


38 posted on 09/29/2012 6:14:43 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: ConorMacNessa

I love Scotch, it makes me mean, though. Can’t touch it...something in the brew...


39 posted on 09/29/2012 6:15:18 PM PDT by Shady (Hey, King Bozo Osmocote....you can't hide the truth anymore..)
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To: GrannyAnn
i make my own bread too ~ from white corn. Drop a little bit of crushed red pepper in it and the stuff tastes like bread.

Doesn't hold together as well as wheat but it tastes right.

BTW, I take a white corn tortilla and put pizza toppings on it and it tastes like pizza and i suffer no ill effects. it's the bread; not the topping!

40 posted on 09/29/2012 6:16:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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