Posted on 09/17/2012 5:17:59 PM PDT by grundle
IQ estimates by intended college major via SAT scores
Assuming the mean IQ of SAT test-takers included in a report by the College Board to be 103*, the estimated average IQ of students by intended college major follow. The estimates exclude writing results, which were added in 2005 and constitute what is generally considered the least objectively reliable part of the test**. The critical reading and mathematics (previously known as the quantitative section) portions are equally weighted:
Intended major IQ
Interdisciplinary studies 114.0
Physical sciences 111.2
Mathematics and statistics 110.7
English and literature 110.1
Foreign language 109.8
Philosophy and religious studies 109.6
Social sciences 109.3
Library science 108.7
Engineering 108.5
Biological and biomedical sciences 107.7
Liberal arts & sciences and humanities 107.5
Area, ethnic, cultural, gender studies 106.8
Theology and religious vocations 106.4
Undecided 106.2
History 106.0
Natural resources and conservation 104.6
Military sciences 104.1
Computer and information sciences 103.9
Communication and journalism 103.5
Architecture 103.2
Visual and performing arts 103.0
Legal professions 102.8
Psychology 101.3
Business 101.2
Health professions 100.8
Engineering technicians 99.9
Education 99.3
Agriculture 99.2
Transportation 98.7
Other 97.8
Family and consumer sciences 97.5
Parks, recreation, leisure and fitness 97.5
Public administration and social services 96.6
Culinary services 96.5
Security and protection 95.9
Precision production 95.2
Construction trades 94.3
Mechanic and repair technician 93.3
Good point
But even so, that still seems very low. If you’re going to be accepted by an engineer school, you’d have to graduate high school with decent enough grades. It takes a bit of brain power to do that, which would imply those being accepted would be smarter than these implied IQ’s.
Assuming the SAT scores are still relatively correlating with IQ scores, and I think we all agree that kids today are less well educated than times past, it’s a reflection of the lower quality of education most are receiving today.
104. Poorly educated and minority doesn’t mean unintelligent.
Graduate high school with D's (unwarranted bias against science fiction, roller hockey, and hominid reproductive biology), ace the ASVAB, go to a school where they actually teach you stuff... the rest is history.
There is more than one way to skin a cat. ;)
/johnny
Disregard. You and others filled in the blanks. The brilliance of these people is ASTOUNDING.
First, to your claim that a quarter of our kids don’t graduate from high school:
“In 2008, 22 percent of Hispanic 18- to 24-year-olds were not enrolled in high school and lacked a high school diploma or equivalent. The corresponding percentages for non-Hispanic whites were 6 percent, blacks were 13 percent and Asians were 4 percent.”
http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/education/cb11-106.html
And:
“The percentage of high school dropouts among 16- through 24-year-olds declined from 11.8 percent in 1998 to 7.4 percent in 2010 (source).”
http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372
The racial demographics for our full school population:
White and Asian: 62%
Black and Hispanic: 38%
http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/p20-564.pdf
You can argue with IQ scores if you want, but Blacks and Hispanics score significantly lower on them than Whites and Asians, and almost 2 out of 5 of our school kids is Black or Hispanic.
I didn’t list physical sciences in my comment. I can tell you never finished! sheesh!
They can’t be that low, can they? Oh, Obama right barely body temperature.
There is always someone here who knows stuff. Just hang around and you'll get to discuss almost everything. Some of the smarty sites are pretty boring usually but there are some righteous nasty flame wars.
“Or equivalent” is the key. Students with GEDs do NOT get into selective colleges without a lot of special circumstances.
And whatever the demographics are, the average IQ is what the average IQ is.
Some HIQ societies don't accept SAT tests taken after 2005 does not correlate to IQ. Maybe take the 'Chitling Test'.
There is a 4 year old in Great Britain with a tested IQ of 159. She’s right up there with Einstein and Stephen Hawking.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/could-4-year-old-heidi-hankins-be-the-next-einstein/
“Bad base presumption, that the average IQ of SAT takes is only 103. The unintelligent don’t go to competitive colleges that require SATs. 1 in 4 Americans don’t graduate HS at all, and only half that do take the SATs.”
Bears repeating.
I score in the same range but never have hit 160:) BTW, I have never obtained a degree although I have had some college in electronics.
That’s interesting. I wonder if the ‘new GRE’ is less so correlated as well.
It’s actually easier for the very young to score very high on IQ tests.
Who said anything about students with GEDs going to selective colleges? I was commenting on our overall student body having a relatively low average IQ.
You posited that 25% of students dropped out of high school, but I gave you a recent statistic that it is only 7.4%.
And look who wants to tell you how to raise your children....
You cannot gather IQ scores from an SAT test.
End of argument.
You just described Google.
Not after 2001.
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