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Military in Iraq Used 70M Rounds of Ammo Annually: DHS Ordered 750M Rounds in One Month
Sodahead, Keys to Liberty Blog, the Examiner copied onto Maggie's Notebook ^ | 8-21-12

Posted on 08/21/2012 7:32:45 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook

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21 posted on 08/22/2012 4:46:05 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
UP!!! guess they know something we don't...
22 posted on 08/22/2012 4:53:06 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: alpo
I considered getting it until I found out the store had been out of ammo for two months. Apparently someone is taking all the the stuff produced and there is precious little left over. It is a fairly obscure cartridge and there are only a couple of production sources.

The FN 5.7 cartridge has developed a real following among the cartel types along the Mexican border. That alone could account for an ammo shortage (though the drug gangs are also getting their hands on the military-spec ammo that we aren't allowed to purchase).

23 posted on 08/22/2012 5:02:24 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Chode

I don’t think they are prophetic or have been given a script of events. You cannot keep secrets of a magnitude of this size.

But my prediction is this, many morons especially the inner city populations are convinced something will happen just before Christmas as per the 2012 conspiracy theories and they will riot, smash windows, rob liquor stores like there will be no tomorrow.

And thats the words, “Like there will be no Tomorrow”


24 posted on 08/22/2012 5:02:43 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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To: Jonty30

This is one officer who won’t.

Of course, I am sceptical of the government, and I am convinced that the federal government is creeping toward federalizing all police under the guise of dealing with “unusual occurrences”. Look up NIMS, LE agencies are mandated to participate in it. This was created after 9/11 and Katrina. Agencies that don’t participate in federal programs don’t get federal money. That fed grant money buys equipment, enforcement details, extra officers, etc, and woe to administrators that do not avail themselves of it.

We are also seeing the rank and file police officers being trained in urban infantry tactics under the banner of fighting terrorism. That definition is a little nebulous of late and who will have the stronger propaganda machine, the average citizen or the government?

I am afraid many of my colleagues are content to work, then go home and watch the ballgame without ever considering what is going on around the world. Some, but not all. Some are VERY aware and want nothing to do with any gun grabs, roundups, or anything of the like.

When the fedgov stretches out it’s hand, saying that it will take care of me and my family if I will get on the team, I am fully capable of telling them “no” and throwing my badge on the desk.


25 posted on 08/22/2012 6:02:55 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: Jonty30

“I do have faith in those currently serving that they will not do that.”

Most 18-22 year olds have no moral compass or any idea the difference between right and wrong. We have an entire generation without any recognizable parental discipline having been applied. They’ll do it.

Many 25-35 year olds are the Gen X/Y. They are about as screwed up as any. They are angry, arrogant, and ignorant of this nation’s history. They don’t see this as the land of opportunity but the land that was created by oppression. They do not value its founding principles. They’ll do it.

More than half of the younger population has been brainwashed in public schools, media, and the Internet to be extreme left-wing liberals and to hate Christians, conservatives, and most “older people” they deem at fault. They’ll do it.

Many would question their orders and not fully understand if what they are being asked to do is wrong or what to do about their doubt of the lawfulness of those orders, but liberals are heavy handed and would squash any dissent quickly and brutally as they usually do. They’ll do it.

The military has been recruiting heavily for foreigners, many are illegal aliens. They’ll do it.

The military recruits heavily from inner cities, tapping the anger of racism. They’ll do it.

The military appeases liberals through creating “Wiccan Churches” and creating all female units. They’ll do it.

The military recruits from the homosexual communities. They’ll do it.

The military has been promoting via Affirmative Action and has many in higher ranks undeserving but loyal to those they know promoted them. They’ll do it.

All 3 & 4 star Generals are political appointments (Most people don’t know that), although some might resign, they’ll do it.

The political and military plans are for UN cooperation in times of civil unrest. They’ll do it.

They won’t ask the military to attack an “American”; they’ll call you a “Domestic Terrorist” first. They’ll do it.

This isn’t your or your parent’s military anymore. There are many in the military that are patriotic Americans, but many are not and that has been by design.


26 posted on 08/22/2012 8:02:58 AM PDT by CodeToad (Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
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To: Molon Labbie

“NIMS”

Yep, without question, NIMS was the federal government’s way of controlling county Sheriff’s departments, all of them. The feds made the law such that failure to follow NIMS places the “offending” government at risk of liability and loss of federal monies. Since the feds take in half of all monies collected by taxation, that results in approximately half of all funding sources.

NIMS also includes every government function, including the school systems.

NIMS mandates ALL local government functions, including those school systems, fire departments, police, Sheriff, DOT, etc. respond to the “authority” of the federal government. The mantra is “No more Katrina’s!”


27 posted on 08/22/2012 8:24:10 AM PDT by CodeToad (Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
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To: Ed Story; All

Yes they have look up the Bonus army or bonus march of 1932 .


28 posted on 08/22/2012 11:02:21 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: CodeToad

What is NIMS ? kindly give a clue as to where to look for more info.


29 posted on 08/22/2012 11:09:08 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: maggiesnotebook; ExTexasRedhead

Pow for later read ...................................... FRegards


30 posted on 08/22/2012 1:41:38 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: CodeToad

A local cop told me about certain “tags” that are put in all LE bulletins to direct them to fed attention. One, I think, was SAR. Not search and rescue. It is all being tied into one net. But....intel flows both ways.


31 posted on 08/22/2012 1:42:32 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Nebr FAL owner

NIMS: National Incident Management System.


32 posted on 08/22/2012 1:59:38 PM PDT by CodeToad (Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
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To: Travis McGee

Very well could be tagged, but I also think the feds know of all LEO sources and scan everything. Hell, I may not be important to anyone but I have no doubt anything and everything I post or email is scanned for at least interesting content.


33 posted on 08/22/2012 2:11:30 PM PDT by CodeToad (Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
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To: CodeToad

But it’s an entirely different level between a small group the government has labeled rogue and the entire population of the United States.

I can agree that military personnel might be willing to take out, on orders, a small group that has been labeled a threat, but I do not believe that the military would do that with the whole US population.

But we will see.


34 posted on 08/22/2012 2:14:18 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

“but I do not believe that the military would do that with the whole US population.”

Of course not, and I don’t believe anyone would ever give such as order. I do believe they’ll be given local orders, lots and lots of them, to have the same affect.


35 posted on 08/22/2012 2:20:24 PM PDT by CodeToad (Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
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To: Eye of Unk
i wouldn't bet against it...
36 posted on 08/22/2012 2:55:48 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Ed Story
Soldiers are trained and molded to obey orders instantly and without question, and not to think on their own.

You have obviously never served in the US military. That is not the operating philosophy at all. It is with other militaries, but not ours. That is precisely what has distinguished our military from all the rest, even before we developed all of the cool gadgets. With the Left packing the military with homos and other assorted anti-American culture types, the level of loyalty may change, but I can tell you, as a former grunt, that until recently, the majority of our troops would balk at killing civilians on our own soil.
37 posted on 08/22/2012 4:23:25 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Chode

Neither would I.


38 posted on 08/23/2012 7:41:09 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
no matter who wins, i have a feeling something wicked this way comes...
39 posted on 08/23/2012 3:05:45 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: maggiesnotebook

More info-

http://clashdaily.com/2012/08/dhs-hides-new-ammo-purchase-following-controversy-news-clashsm-feature/


40 posted on 08/23/2012 3:36:16 PM PDT by matthew fuller (They'll have to pry my gun, my bible, and my chikin from my cold dead fingers.)
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