Posted on 08/06/2012 12:20:12 PM PDT by grundle
Full title: The biggest current obstacles to medical marijuana are President Obama and the progressives on the Supreme Court
Im a libertarian, and I think that both medical and recreational marijuana should be legal. That being said, I myself have never smoked marijuana, or tobacco, or been drunk, or used any illegal drug. I do, however, think that its completely ridiculous to put non-violent people in jail for using mind altering substances. And I especially detest the idea of the government preventing people from using a medical treatment which has been proven in scientific studies to be beneficial for patients who are suffering from AIDS, cancer, multiple sclerosis, glaucoma, and other medical conditions. I voted for Ron Paul for President in 2008, and I will be voting for Gary Johnson in 2012. The ridiculous war on drugs has caused the U.S. incarceration rate to skyrocket in recent decades to the highest rate of any country in the entire world. Ending the war on drugs is my #1 most important political issue.
During the Great Depression, while millions of Americans were hungry, the progressives who controlled the federal government passed laws that were deliberately designed to increase the price of food. For example, they passed a law that limited how much wheat farmers could grow, with the deliberate intent of raising its price. The people who supported this policy referred to themselves as progressives, and they had control of the House, the Senate, the Presidency, and the Supreme Court.
A farmer named Roscoe Filburn had grown more wheat than he was legally allowed to grow. However, he never sold the wheat, and it never crossed state lines.
However, even though he never sold the wheat, and even though it never crossed state lines, the progressive majority on the Supreme Court still claimed that his growing of this extra wheat constituted interstate commerce.
Of course this ruling is absurd. He did not sell the wheat. The wheat never crossed state lines. Nevertheless, it was ruled as being interstate commerce.
This 1942 ruling, called Wickard v. Filburn, massively expanded the power of the federal government. What it meant was that pretty much anything could be considered interstate commerce, and that there were no longer any real limits on federal power. Progressives cheered this ruling conservatives and libertarians were very critical of it.
Flash forward. In 1996, California legalized medical marijuana. This was completely in line with the 10th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which states:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Because of the 10th amendment, when the federal government had wanted to outlaw alcohol in the early 20th century, it had to pass the 18th amendment, which gave the federal government the power to outlaw alcohol. Without the 18th amendment, the 10th amendment would have prevented the federal government from outlawing alcohol. The 18th amendment was ratified in 1919, and was later repealed by the 21st amendment in 1933. During the time that alcohol was illegal, it was controlled by organized crime, and was associated with murder, bribing of public officials, and contaminated bathtub gin that caused its drinkers to go blind, and sometimes even killed them. In many ways, it was extremely similar to todays war on drugs.
As I said above, in 1996, California legalized medical marijuana, and the 10th amendment supported its right to do so.
A few years later, in California, a woman named Angel Raich was using medical marijuana, which her doctor had deemed necessary in order to save her from suffering from excruciating and life-threatening pain. According to California law, Raichs medical marijuana was completely legal.
In addition, the medical marijuana that Raich was using was home grown it had never crossed state lines, and no money had changed hands. So, according to the 10th amendment, it should not have been subject to federal control.
However, even though Raichs medical marijuana never crossed state lines, and was never sold for money, the United States Supreme court still ruled that Raichs medical marijuana constituted interstate commerce. This ruling, which took place in 2005, is called Gonzales v. Raich. The precedent cited for this ruling is the 1942 case Wickard v. Filburn. Other than the fact that one case was about wheat and the other was about medical marijuana, the two cases are identical.
Thus, the 2005 ruling against medical marijuana is based on policies which were enacted and supported by progressives during the New Deal.
And if we look at how the different Supreme Court justices sided in the 2005 ruling, this becomes even more clear. In the 2005 ruling, every progressive justice on the Supreme court every one of them, without exception voted against medical marijuana. They did this not because they have anything against medical marijuana per se but instead, because they did not want to overturn Wickard v. Filburn.
So who were the dissenters in the 2005 medical marijuana ruling? The dissenters those who supported states rights on the issue of medical marijuana were justices OConnor, Rehnquist, and Thomas.
Imagine that all the progressives on the court ruled against medical marijuana, while three conservative justices voted in favor of it. Of course it wasnt the medical marijuana per se that they were ruling on instead, it was the states right to make their own decision on medical marijuana that they were truly ruling on.
Flash forward a few more years. Barack Obama is running for President of the United States. In May 2008, Obama campaign spokesperson Ben LaBolt said that Obama would end DEA raids on medical marijuana in states where its legal. I cheered Obama for this. I said to myself that if Obama kept this promise, he would be my favorite president so far during my lifetime. (I was born in 1971).
Also in 2008, Obama said that he supported the
basic concept of using medical marijuana for the same purposes and with the same controls as other drugs
and that he was
not going to be using Justice Department resources to try to circumvent state laws.
Again, this was fantastic news, and I looked forward to this taking place.
In November 2008, Barack Obama was elected President. He was inaugurated in January 2009.
However, in February 2010, DEA agents raided a medical marijuana grower in Highlands Ranch in Colorado, a state where medical marijuana is legal.
Also in February 2010, DEA agents raided a medical marijuana dispensary in Culver City in California, a state where medical marijuana is legal.
In July 2010, the DEA raided at least four medical marijuana growers in San Diego, California.
Also in July 2010, the DEA raided a medical marijuana facility in Covelo, California.
Then in September 2010, the DEA conducted raids on at least five medical marijuana dispensaries in Las Vegas, Nevada, where medical marijuana is legal.
In 2011, the DEA conducted raids on medical marijuana in Seattle, Washington, West Hollywood, California, and Helena, Montana, all places where it is legal.
In April 2012, the DEA carried out several raids on medical marijuana in Oakland, California.
In February 2012, Rolling Stone magazine wrote that Obamas war against medical marijuana went
far beyond anything undertaken by George W. Bush.
In April 2012, Mother Jones magazine wrote:
The president campaigned on the promise that hed stop federal raids on medical marijuana operations that were in compliance with state laws, a vow that Attorney General Eric Holder repeated after the election. But then the Obama administration raided more than 100 dispensaries in its first three years and is now poised to outpace the Bush administrations crackdown record.
In May 2012, the Washington Post wrote:
Obama has become more hostile to medical marijuana patients than any president in U.S. history.
In May 2012, U.S. Congressperson Nancy Pelosi (D-California) said she had
strong concerns
about Obamas forced closure of five medical marijuana facilities in Pelosis congressional district.
In April 2012, commenting on Obamas crackdown on medical marijuana, U.S. Congressman Barney Frank (D-Massachusetts) said:
Im very disappointed They look more like the Bush administration than the Clinton administration.
In July 2012, federal prosecutors filed civil forfeiture actions against Harborside Health Center, a medical marijuana dispensary in Oakland, CA, which claims to be the worlds largest, and which claims to serve more than 100,000 medical marijuana patients.
In May 2012, ABC News reported that during Obamas youth, he often smoked large quantities of recreational marijuana. Im not upset that Obama did that but I am upset by his hypocrisy. His marijuana wasnt even medical it was recreational. And yet now, he is taking large scale, widespread action to prevent people with AIDS, cancer, multiple sclerosis, glaucoma, and other illnesses, who have prescriptions from their doctors, from using their prescription medicine. This makes me so angry.
In April 2012, federal agents raided Oaksterdam University, an educational institution in Oakland, CA, which teaches people about medical marijuana.
In April 2012, federal agents raided a medical marijuana facility which had been serving 1,500 patients near Lake Elsinore, CA.
In June 2012, the Obama administration filed asset-forfeiture lawsuits against two landlords who rented their buildings to medical marijuana stores in Santa Fe Springs, CA. The Obama administration also sent warning letters which threatened similar legal action to dozens of other, nearby landlords.
During the first seven months of 2012, the DEA shut down 40 medical marijuana dispensaries in Colorado, all of which had been operating in compliance with state and local law.
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I agree. This is more about over-reach by the federal gov’t and the Supreme Court’s many bad decisions that have expanded Gov’t power. When even a suppossed “Conservative” Supreme Court led by a “Conservative” Chief Judge won’t strike down a clearly un-constitutional piece of legislation like Obamacare we are in trouble. If Republicans regain the Senate and keep the House then reigning in Federal Power and limiting control should be at the top of the “To-Do” list........
There is no such thing as “medical” pot. If this is reaaaaly medical then any perscription should have an instantaneous medical suspension of all vehicle licenses. There is no instant roadside test for pot use.
That's an excellent point. I agree with you.
Ignorant nonsense - cannabis has a number of scientifically established medical uses, such as for pain relief, control of nausea and vomiting, and appetite stimulation.
Ludicrous - Is there ANY prescription for which this is done?
For every 100 people who have prescriptions for Medical Weed, .05% may receive some form of benefit. The rest are just abusing the system.
yes, also and look at people who suffer from seizures.
nice try.
Ignorant nonsense - cannabis has a number of scientifically established medical uses, such as for pain relief, control of nausea and vomiting, and appetite stimulation.
For every 100 people who have prescriptions for Medical Weed, .05% may receive some form of benefit. The rest are just abusing the system.
Since .05% of 100 people is .05 people, I think you're pulling numbers out of your nether orifice. And even if your numbers were right, they still wouldn't prove your claim that 'there is no such thing as medical pot.'
People abuse the prescription system for opiate painkillers, too - is that a reason to ban those medicines?
yes,
Which one(s)?
also and look at people who suffer from seizures.
Taking medicine before driving is voluntary, having a seizure is not. Nice try.
Since you are a libertatrian and obviously one who is at the extreme end of the spectrum.... I don’t really care what you think. You have no personal experience ( by your own admission) of the devastation that medical marijuana causes in the communities that it is available. Go peddle your drugs for everyone to someone else.
and IF you really need cannaboids then you would get a suppositroy of Marinol. Nice try though because smoking dope is so safe
so then take the actual pill with is available at the pharmacy. If it is medical that is.
If it is REALLY medical where are the doctor perscriptions for the in existence pills? There are very few if any because this is only about a pretext to excuse recreational use that ends up killing people. (ie potheads driving)
in most states dr. would have the affirmative duty to report the inability to drive.
In most states now, DWI no longer means just driving while too drunk, it means driving while under the influence, of alcohol or some drug. No new laws are needed in most states to charge someone for driving while “high”.
And, yes, it's true, just like drunks we usually do not know someone was DWI - the vast majority of the time - unless they have an accident or are noticeably driving erratically.
If a cop thinks a driver is driving erratically but, after questioning, suspects the driver is not drunk but is high, they can be held on suspicion of driving while “under the influence” for a period of time in which an immediate blood test and one 4 to six hours later can confirm, or not, the presence of THC in the blood. The first test would usually confirm it if they had last smoked a joint six hours earlier, otherwise the second test would confirm it if they had just smoked a joint right before they were stopped.
Using medical marijjuana is no excuse for "driving while under the influence" any more than is the mere legality of alcoholic beverages. Resonsible use is what the law expects, not abstinence.
If a driver is NOT driving erratically in any fashion, then a question of their alcohol consumption or if they had a joint recently does not come up - because they are not driving erratically - period.
If one thinks that every road should have daily DWI checkpoints just because medical marijuana is in practice, then that same logic says they should be already calling for daily DWI chekpoints on every road to catch all the alcohol consumers who mights have had one two many, though their driving manner does not show it. Oh that would be too Gestapo like? RIGHT!!! Yes, it would, as it would for no reason than to summarily “find every pot head on the road”.
Like "Mr Conservative" - William F. Buckley, argued years ago, and much more eloqunetly than I could, decriminalize of pot would be better for the more positives it would represent than any potential negatives that might be feared from it.
The vast majority of people who drink alcoholic beverages do not in their lifetime incur a DWI violation or a DWI induced accident. It is no different in the population of the many different people that smoke a joint. Just as their are alcoholics among those who drink alcoholic beverages, there are pot heads amont those who smoke point, and they too represent a minority of everyone who has marijuana on occasion.
The fears of many people are not represented by the facts.
We created the Mafia with prohibition and we have created the drug cartles with the war on drugs. It's a simple and dumb act of not learning from history.
Pills are slow-onset, so it's difficult to adjust the dose to the minimum required at the time (aka titration); they're hard for nausea patients to keep down; and Marinol contains only one of marijuana's active ingredients.
If it is REALLY medical where are the doctor perscriptions for the in existence pills? There are very few if any
Do you have evidence for your claim?
yes,
Which one(s)?
Well?
also and look at people who suffer from seizures.
Taking medicine before driving is voluntary, having a seizure is not. Nice try.
in most states dr. would have the affirmative duty to report the inability to drive.
Beside the point - one can choose to not take medication prior to driving, whereas one can't choose to not have a seizure while driving, so the situations are not comparable.
Good point. Also, I've been prescribed medicines - including an anti-inflammatory - whose labels warn 'do not drive after taking' but I haven't had my license suspended.
Using a vaporizer to consume medical marijuana would be much safer. But many medicines are 'unsafe' due to side effects while still being safer than not taking them - that should be up to doctors and patients to decide.
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