Posted on 07/24/2012 3:21:18 PM PDT by WXRGina
This just makes me sick. It’s like a flippin’ nighmare watching this government and those who are on “our side” behaving like Demonrats!
Republicans in the House can’t change anything until after the election, because the Dems control the Senate. Only IF we flip the Senate will a new Congress be able to kill Obamacare after Jan. 1.
But, when push comes to shove, they are ONE PARTY. The geniuses (or are they disruptors?) on FR who insist that we have have to vote for the Republican regardless of who he is, won't admit that nothing will change as long as we keep politicians from either party in office. The outcome of the current election will have zero impact.
Any real conservative with any guts at all will dump the GOP and work passionately for a real conservative party. Perhaps it can grow out of the Tea Party as long as we keep the GOP politicos out.
It would behoove conservatives to refer to themselves as RINOs, being that, Republicans do not seem concerned with principles that could be deemed conservative.
You’re MUCH too generous to him! Boehner aspires to be scum.
You are correct. There simply isn’t anything one can do as long as Harry Reid is the Senate leader. At this stage, just over 3 months until the election, I don’t feel like giving the Dems any sort of opportunity to change the current momentum for our side. Any threat of government shutdowns or sob stories from targeted groups only hurts us at this stage. We want to fight about the big issues, which are in our favor.
Much of what happens in the lame duck session will be dictated by what happens in November.
The BEST outcome for America is to shut down the Federal Government, and have a do-over to re-establish a REAL Constitutional Repulic......where Term Limits and non-Union Employees are the Rule.
obamacare is the law of the land, folks, and you might as well get used to it. Just think, for the rest of your life you’re going to hear the word “obamacare”. With the republican party in charge you’ll never hear the word “impeach” or “birth certificate” or “dictator” or any other derogative word about the one. So, I guess if you want to stop hearing the word “obamacare” anytime in the future, it’s time to start building a third, and real, conservative party.
Obamacare will be implemented if Obama wins.
The RATS would love to see that. It would be DOA in the Senate, and the Pubs would either have to cave, or see the government shut down a month before the election, for which they would be blamed. Talk about snaching defeat from the jaws of victory!
“Obamacare will be implemented if Obama wins.”
Exactly. The house has voted to defund it numerous times. We need a senate to let it come to a vote and a president that will sign it.
BS.
The House can defund it. Spending bills must originate in the House.
Obviously, when they voted to repeal it, that was just a bunch of hot air.
When the time comes to effectively repeal it without the Senate, by defunding it, they’re a bunch of spineless pansies.
So how do spending bills become law?
Spending bills become law by passage through both houses of congress and a signature by the President. But that doesn’t change the fact that, if the house does not originate the bill, there is no bill for the Senate to vote on or for the President to sign.
Of course spending bills must originate in the House.
Are you seriously suggesting that House passage is all that in necessary? They also have to pass the Senate, which is impossible now.
So there’s no reason to waste energy on the impossible, when the possible is directly before us in November.
We have a chance to reverse this thing, but not if we’re distracted by futile arguments.
It ceased being the party of Reagan - if it ever truly was - in 1989, once Bush I took over. Except for the Gingrich-led takeover of Congress, the GOP has mostly been pathetic, like they were before Reagan came along.
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