If Obama wins: Will Texas secede from the union?

BizPac Review ^ | Michael Dorstewitz

[cap10mike]

Could Texas once again become the Republic of Texas?

Without question, the Nov. 6 election will be a do-or-die, make-or-break, Rubicon-crossing event. If the presidential election goes one way, we get a “do-over.” We’ll be given the opportunity to take the first step on a long, arduous journey back to our political and economic roots. If it goes the other way, federalism and balance of power will continue to be edged out by an overreaching federal government and an imperial presidency. Socialism will have an unbreakable hold on the economy, and a centralized government, rather than a free market, will determine business’ winners and losers.

[Sporke]

That is not correct. That is one side of it. You didn’t hear the Texas side of things.
If the Constitution meant for States to be in the Union forever, it would have said so. It didn’t.
What the Court ruled is in affect changing a contract. A contract cannot be changed without BOTH parties agreeing to it. That never happened.
Texas, and ever other state, can leave if it’s citizens decide to do so, period.

[Rastus]

If we get the House and Senate and send a repeal bill to Romney, he’ll sign it whether he wants to or not. He wants to be President too bad to throw away the only reason he’s there. With Obama, it’ll go into effect and never be dismantled. One play with a crap hand.

[Engineer_Soldier]

I agree, as a somebody who grew up as a young boy in Aransas Pass, TX. But, as a realist, I couldn’t see it happening.

[Sivad]

Nobody is going to secede over a four year term. If a
president claims marshall law and decides to extend his
term then all bets are off.

[Sporke]

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

[Arkansas Toothpick]

It is absurd to say that secession is “illegal”. When you have a president who uses the Constitution for toilet paper, there is a right and duty to protect the people of one’s state from tyranny. If you want to sit back in Kalifornia or Taxachusetts and bemoan your fate all the while doing nothing, then be my guest. Texas is going to show you that Obama’s tyranny will not stand.

[greene66]

If Obama is re-elected that will pretty much confirm America has embraced his degenerate Marxist-collectivist worldview, which will spell the country’s ignoble end. Nothing really left to save or preserve. Thus, as a longstanding Texan, I’d be more than receptive to the prospect of secession.

[Quickgun]

Texas didn’t give a rats ass the first time,and won’t give a rats ass this time either. The administration in Washington has violated nearly all of the Constitution, so, IMHO, that alone gives Texas or any other state that thinks it can make it on it’s own the right to leave. We don’t depend on the rest of the country to any degree that we couldn’t manage here in Texas.

[moonshot925]

The Constitution itself does not prohibit secession, only the interpretations of the victors prohibits secession

Cheif Justice Roger Taney explained why succession is unconstitutional in a memorandum on 1 February 1861.

"The South contends that a state has a constitutional right to secede from the Union formed with her sister states. In this I submit the South errs. No power or right is constitutional but what can be exercised in a form or mode provided in the constitution for its exercise. Secession is therefore not constitutional, but revolutionary; and is only morally competent, like war, upon failure of justice."

In other words, there is no way for the concept of unilateral secession to be exercised under the US Constitution, for no mode or form of such is provided in that document

This is the Chief Justice Justice of the United States BEFORE the Civil War even started.

[Quickgun]

You are correct, sir.

[Slambat]

“Obama will instantly declare “Administrative Amnesty” for illegal immigrants.

And Texas will instantly become a “Blue State.”

That’s right and Roberts will pave the way. People are starting
to rethink that “Bush “Miss me yet” bumper sticker.

[fahraint]

That was an opinion of a man.....nearly one million died to debate it. He is not right because his side won......I repeat, there is absolutely zero in the US Constitution that prohibits secession. There wasnt in 1861, and there still isnt.

[TLI]

If Obama wins: Will Texas secede from the union?

I doubt that we would have to.

Four more years of little bammy's communism with the little nutjob flailing around issuing E.O's because he "has been mandated by the election" and half of the u.S. will simply collapse.

We here in Texas, along with a few other "producing" States will simply work amongst ourselves to carry on while the basket-case states fold up. If dee-cee attempts to "federalize" (nationalize) our and other producing states resources they probably will fail outright as whomever they send will simply surrender and request asylum in that state rather than go back to the communists.

Here is where we can quote "the smartest President in history."

It doesn’t work,” Obama said. “It’s never worked.”



How right you are, jugears.

Just not the way you want to be right.

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[Quickgun]

Why does secession start a war? No one is going to nuke us.Texas would have control over the nukes that are here, anyway.

[cap10mike]

You may be right on that one. I suppose we could all pray for a Congress of Allen Wests.

[moonshot925]

Texas didn’t give a rats ass the first time,and won’t give a rats ass this time either.

Texas was crushed the first time and will be crushed again if it tries to secede from the union it voluntarily entered into.

[cap10mike]

I may move there no matter what. :)

[cap10mike]

It’s never been tested in the courts that I’ve been able to determine.

[Verginius Rufus]

Could Texas handle 30 million refugees from the other states?

[cap10mike]

Hahahahaha! I’ll be there right along with ya!