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Mitt Romney and why the Virginia-Colorado scenario means his defeat
July 14, 2012 | techno

Posted on 07/14/2012 7:13:11 PM PDT by techno

Search around the internet and among most pundits you will find this conclusion:

Among sure blue states and blue states that lean blue President Obama now commands 247 electoral votes (EV) adjusted for the 2010 census.

These states include:

Hawaii (4)

Washington state (12)

Oregon (7)

California (55)

New Mexico (5)

Minnesota (10)

Wisconsin (10)

Michigan (16)

Illinois (20)

Pennsylvania (20)

New York State (29)

Delaware (3)

Maryland (10)

New Jersey (14)

Connecticut (7)

Rhode Island (4)

Massachusetts (11)

Vermont (3)

Maine (4)

DC (3)

Now Mitt Romney commands 180 EV adjusted for the 2010 census:

Alaska (3)

Idaho (4)

Montana (3)

Wyoming (3)

Utah (6)

Arizona (11)

Texas (38)

Oklahoma (7)

Kansas (6)

Nebraska (5)

South Dakota (3)

North Dakota (3)

Missouri (10)

Arkansas (6)

Louisiana (8)

Mississippi (6)

Alabama (9)

Georgia (16)

South Carolina (9)

West Virginia (5)

Kentucky (8)

Tennessee (11)

Now that accounts for 427 EV which leaves 111 EV outstanding.

Now here is how they break down:

a) 5 largest battleground states

Indiana (11)

Ohio (18)

Virginia (13)

North Carolina (15)

Florida (29)

Total 86 EV

And finally 4 smaller swing states:

Colorado (9)

Nevada (6)

Iowa (6)

New Hampshire (4)

Total 25 EV

Now here is how a lot of pundits see the 2012 election. Bottom line--Romney needs to win 4 of the 5 largest battleground states: Indiana appears to be in the bag, but he needs to win Florida for sure and 2 of 3 of Ohio, VA, and NC at a bare minimum to have any chance of becoming the president.

For example with the Goode candidacy putting Virginia in doubt for Romney if Romney were to win Indiana, Ohio, NC and Florida that would increase his total by 73 EV to 253 EV. He would therefore need 17 EV to eke out a bare victory.

Now why I call it the Virgina-Colorado scenario is if Romney loses Virginia he is then forced to win Colorado with its 9 EV and and 2 out of 3 of Iowa, Nevada and NH. In other words if Romney loses both Virginia and Colorado, Obama will be re-elected.

So this begs two questions:

a) What can Romney do to have any chance to win Virginia?

b) What can Romney do to have any chance of winning Colorado?

Imho, he needs to put a rock-ribbed conservative on the ticket who has the ability to "steal" Goode's conservative support away from him. Otherwise he has to pray Goode doesn't get the 10,000 required signatures to get on the ballot or Goode dies of a heart attack.

As for Colorado, he needs to put on the ticket a westerner with either libertarian or Hispanic ties at a minimum or a rock-ribbed conservative to win over evangelical voters in Colorado. A cushy safe moderate won't cut it in CO or VA.

And conservatives, I think you have to start asking yourself this question: Do you really want to go into the election with a candidate as flawed as Romney or failing that don't you think it would be in your best interests to demand Romney put a rock-ribbed conservative on the ticket to at least to give him a shot at either Virginia or Colorado or both?


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012swingstates; conservatives; obama; palin; romney; va2012
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1 posted on 07/14/2012 7:13:19 PM PDT by techno
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To: techno

LOL- didn’t you last attempt with this garbage 15 minutes ago get put in the recycle bin by the moderators???

as far as your pie in the sky dream about Goode costing Romney the state of Virginia- did you bother to look at the PPP polls you contrived this garbage from last time before it was sent to the crapper??? did you notice the poll had a +12 rat tilt in the data???


2 posted on 07/14/2012 7:18:59 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: techno

The polls have them tied by heavily oversampling democrappers. We need conservatives in the House and Senate to whak romney in the head not to do stoooopid things.


3 posted on 07/14/2012 7:25:30 PM PDT by MtnClimber (To the left wrong is right, down is up and backward is "Forward")
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To: techno

0 wins 2 states and DC.


4 posted on 07/14/2012 7:26:22 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja
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To: techno
Your analysis may be good, but on the Obama states I wouldn't necessarily bet my life on Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
5 posted on 07/14/2012 7:27:54 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: techno
The voters from California and New York are doing to this country what they've accomplished in their own states: complete economic melt-down. Almost 100 electoral votes in the bag for every dem. Obama doesn't even need to campaign in those states...just show up once in awhile for a bag full of money.
6 posted on 07/14/2012 7:31:40 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: techno
a) What can Romney do to have any chance to win Virginia?

Be someone other than Mitt Romney.

b) What can Romney do to have any chance of winning Colorado?

See above.
7 posted on 07/14/2012 7:32:32 PM PDT by arderkrag (ABOs are Romneybot trolls. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: God luvs America
Your tag line is the purest of class envy and hatred. Why should we believe anything you say?

If the federal personal income tax is causing you problems get rid of it. The thing was intended to tap only the top 1% or 2% anyway. The fact it taps the top 53% is a crime.

Get with the picture. None of us approve of higher taxes on anybody ~ except you guys with your personal income tax garbage.

8 posted on 07/14/2012 7:33:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Huskrrrr

Are you sure about that? I was in Berkeley (California) today and counted a total of about THREE BO/Biden bumper stickers.


9 posted on 07/14/2012 7:33:51 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: techno

My count is:

Romney 206 EV

Obama 201 EV

with Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Virginia, Colorado, Utah and Iowa up for grabs. The idea that Obama has 247 EVs lock up is silly almost as silly as the idea that North Carolina is a swing state.


10 posted on 07/14/2012 7:34:00 PM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress))
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To: Huskrrrr

Correction: California + New York = 84 votes.


11 posted on 07/14/2012 7:34:30 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: thecodont

Hope you’re right.


12 posted on 07/14/2012 7:36:13 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: techno

To your way of thinking, heck why even bother HAVING an election, let’s just give Obama the election now.

Getting sick of this stuff real fast.


13 posted on 07/14/2012 7:36:26 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: techno

Obama is now losing “Wisconsin (10)”

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/13/rasmussen-romney-up-in-wisconsin-4744/

And Obama is behind in Iowa.


14 posted on 07/14/2012 7:39:59 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: arderkrag
Be someone other than Mitt Romney

Hes already doing that every other day

15 posted on 07/14/2012 7:44:04 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: JLS

Rasmussen has already given Michigan and Pennsylvania to Obama.

As for Utah, Romney has their 6 EV in the bag.

In the RCP average of polls they have Wisconsin at:

Obama 48.4%

Romney 44.0%

I’m not going to totally disagree with you on Wisconsin but I think putting Paul Ryan on the ticket might give me a little more confidence that Romney could pull it off.

I see Obama winning Wisconsin by about 3-4 points. But a win is a win.


16 posted on 07/14/2012 7:44:55 PM PDT by techno
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To: muawiyah

LOL- class envy and hatred??? funny thing; besides your delusional rhetoric which is commonly found on sites such as democratic underground, you’ve done nothing to prove my tagline is anything but true...

you keep pining for virgil goode- i’ll keep laughing at you....


17 posted on 07/14/2012 7:47:01 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: techno

The latest NY Times map shows you to be incorrect.

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/electoral-map


18 posted on 07/14/2012 7:48:15 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: techno

Forget Goode. Looming defense cuts and no support from Kaine will doom Obama in VA.


19 posted on 07/14/2012 7:49:21 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: techno
Good evening.

Just a reality check. Jimmah Carter was up by over 12 points at the end of September in 1980. We all know how that turned out.

5.56mm

20 posted on 07/14/2012 7:52:16 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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