Never bring a pistol to a rifle fight... ;-)
1 posted on
06/25/2012 10:16:56 AM PDT by
Sopater
To: Sopater
I prefer long guns. They are within my comfort zone.
2 posted on
06/25/2012 10:18:56 AM PDT by
cripplecreek
(What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
To: Sopater
M-1 Garand in Springfield 30-06, accept NO Substitutes!
3 posted on
06/25/2012 10:22:01 AM PDT by
US Navy Vet
(Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
To: Sopater
Why, then, does the civilian populace have it backwards? Leaving aside the practicality of carrying a rifle around, a pistol for defense purposes is inferior in every way to a rifle. It's always a matter of using the right tool, for the right job.
If home owner steps outside of his house, and fires a "range" weapon, he's going to have some explaining to do. However, inside his own home the homeowner's primary concern is maneuverability in a confined (and very familiar) space. I can swing my 9mm around my house - faster than a stranger can swing around a carbine. My 9mm will kill the intruder, without going through the walls, penetrating the exterior walls of my neighbor and injuring/killing them. This is by design. Totally different mission - and for the homeowner, the proper tool.
Whereas, many of the fire-fights our troops are engaged in are at ranges greater than 25 ft.
4 posted on
06/25/2012 10:23:13 AM PDT by
Hodar
(A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
To: Sopater
Much as I’d love to carry my FAL into the 7/11, it might be a bit inconvenient. I find the author’s reference to “armchair warriors” more than a little ironic. Is his whole point that a rifle is better than a pistol?
To: Sopater
I don’t think there is a great chance that I would ever need a defensive rifle. Just not likely in my area tho I would never dismiss it as impossible.
I did have an incident happen a few months ago which made me realize a high capacity shotgun or pistol could happen.
I had driven out to the nearest town which is about 12 miles away. As I approached home I noticed a van parked in my rural driveway.
I thought about getting my pistol ready but decided to just play it by ear. It turned out they were friendly and didn’t act at all hostile. They had almost lost a tire and had no spare. The bad one had metal showing. I knew a guy who would help them out and he lived near enough that I told them to go ahead and creep to his house which was only a short distance to go. I phoned him to warn him.
After they were gone, I did check a tire and wheel I had in my driveway and they had definitely checked it out before I got there. Maybe just something they would have offered to buy but maybe to steal. Anyway it was the wrong size.
7 posted on
06/25/2012 10:29:48 AM PDT by
yarddog
To: Sopater
One perhaps oblique ancillary: I have just recently converted my ARs to piston driven guns. The reduction in heat in the firing chamber and bolt carrier, as well as the reduction in carbon fouling is very significant for more than five or six rounds fired in a fire fight. I reccommend one of three best systems because of functionality to the level of three hundred rounds in less than an hour.
9 posted on
06/25/2012 10:33:11 AM PDT by
MHGinTN
(Being deceived can be cured.)
To: Sopater
The real question for me is .40 cal or .45 acp :)
10 posted on
06/25/2012 10:35:14 AM PDT by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
To: Sopater
Advice from my neighbor, who was going on a business trip, to his wife, who was staying home: “if someone breaks in to the house, point this gun (300 Weatherby Magnum) at that wall (solid cinder block) and pull the trigger — they’ll leave.”
To: Sopater
And only the
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Brian Terry with
less than lethal beanbag rounds.Read
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Critics of US border patrol procedures, including Terry's family, say thatTerry, a former Marine, was operating under specific Department of Homeland Security (DHS) orders that required agents encountering suspected illegal immigrants on US soil to fire nonlethal bean bags before using live ammunition.
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15 posted on
06/25/2012 10:44:04 AM PDT by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die!)
To: Sopater
Carbines and rifles are obviously superior to a pistol beyond close range. A shotgun can be depending.
However, nothing is more handy than a pistol, or easier to use in a confined space.
Just to be safe, have a long gun to fall back to.
17 posted on
06/25/2012 10:52:59 AM PDT by
SampleMan
(Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
To: Sopater
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I am sure my AK 74 (5.45X39) would penetrate several walls. I was at the range and a guy came over and asked me what I was shooting and I told him that it was a bulge AK 74. He said what threw him off was he could see it had hardly any recoil and yet I was sending rounds through my target and raising dust on the backstop berm. ;-)
25 posted on
06/25/2012 11:37:32 AM PDT by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: Sopater
My husband’s affinity for his reproduction Civil War era Gatling gun doesn’t seem so weird when I read things like this.
26 posted on
06/25/2012 11:40:24 AM PDT by
MeganC
(No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
To: Sopater
Do marines use ear protection on a daily basis when they are on patrol?
35 posted on
06/25/2012 2:57:17 PM PDT by
Sawdring
To: Sopater
I live in the burbs and although I appreciate all the classic WW2 battle rifles I am much more of a carbine guy. I've got the Saiga .223 and I just picked up a Ruger PC9.
I was looking for a good PC9 at a reasonable price for years. I already have two P89 automatics that take 15 rd mags. The PC 9 takes the same mag.
I would really like to find a .45 ACP Camp Carbine but they are ridiculously rare since November 2008. They use a standard M1911 mag and I can't think of a better carbine/pistol combo. My Ruger combo is fine but it's not .45 ACP.
38 posted on
06/25/2012 4:19:53 PM PDT by
wtc911
(Amigo - you've been had.)
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