Free Republic's own 'FerFal'

Free Republic ^ | 6/6/12 | marron

[Kartographer]

Yesterday on a thread FReeper marron was very good to discribe her very own Financial SHTF experience. Seeing what is more than likely coming our way I believe her post to be extremely valuable information and I am posting it here again to make sure that as many FReepers read it.

Thank you marron the firsthand expereince and the information you shared is priceless to those currently prepping and should be eye opening to those that aren't.

[ansel12]

Americans aren’t Nazis death camp operators, and Communist mass murderers just waiting to emerge.

You didn't disagree with that I don't think.

[ansel12]

“I don’t anticipate the death camps against the vast majority of Americans run by a tiny group of city living, non-enlisting, Christian haters from NYC, anytime soon.”

You didn't disagree with that either, I don't think.

[ansel12]

Our Civil War and it’s aftermath during our first 80 years of existence and during our most volatile history and following the Revolutionary war that we sprang from is yet more evidence of how different we are as a people from your silly list of the great mass murderers of history.

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"I don’t anticipate the death camps against the vast majority of Americans run by a tiny group of city living, non-enlisting, Christian haters from NYC, anytime soon."

Apparently you haven't looked at who it is wearing TSA uniforms lately....Obama's "private army, as big and funded as much as the regular military". Add military weaponry, militant national community organizing, restraint orders to the US Military and media backup to the LA riots, and this nation is done for.

I pray we still have lots of time to repent, but things do not look good. Serious trouble is screaming toward this generation of Americans.

[CodeToad]

"Americans aren’t Nazis death camp operators, and Communist mass murderers just waiting to emerge.

Bill Ayers is Obama's best friend and wrote his books and he is a domestic terrorist that murderd US citizens and tried to kill more. Bill Ayers claimed they would need to kill at least 25 million people to keep liberalism in power. Bill Ayers is an American and best friend of President Obama.

Bill Ayers was a member of the Weather Underground.

Bill Ayers wrote Prarie Fire, a manual of intent and terrorism.

Liberal study Ayers, et al., worship their childish anti-establishment acts terrorism and desire to emulate them. I don't know what America you live in but this one has plenty of liberals to carry out the orders of murdering tyrants and they can't wait to do so.

[CodeToad]

If you need things spelled out that clearly then you need lessons in reading comprehension and aren’t nearly as intelligent as you think you are.

[ansel12]

“Americans aren’t Nazis death camp operators, and Communist mass murderers just waiting to emerge.”

Do I really have to point out that “Americans” doesn’t literally mean each single individual, you don’t even have to go to Bill Ayers for an exception, why not Charles Manson, or some of the literal death camp people who came to the US after WWII, if you want to waste time and ignore the point?

[null and void]

Saaaayyyyy, is that the very same Bill Ayers who hosted the launch of Obama's political career in his own living room?

The same Bill Ayers who openly advocated killing 25,000,000 Americans after they took over?

That Bill Ayers?

[null and void]

“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Barack Hussein Obama, 7/2/2008

They don’t call it a Civil Defense force, that would imply we need (or perhaps deserve) defense.

The official name is National Civilian Community Corps.

I think of it as the NATCCC, or simply the NATCs...

[ansel12]

Apparently you haven’t looked at who wears the military uniforms, right wing anti-Obama Christians, and the more combat oriented they are, then the more anti-Obama and anti-left.

In 2010 we had an historical political victory, and we have the military, and we have the masses, we have the vast American geography, the guns, the unity, the 20+ million veterans, I wouldn’t say that THEY are going to figure out how to herd us all into death camps anytime soon.

[marron]

Thanks for the ping. I’m a he, for what its worth...

Thanks also for your post 12 for explaining who Ferfal is. He has written a great deal on his website about living in a collapsed economy. One of the observations he has made that really rings true is how normal everything looks, after the collapse, to an outsider.

It was really only in retrospect that I realized that I had myself witnessed the very things he writes about, because your mind has a way of accepting what it sees as normal.

I was a fly on the wall, so to speak, as Ecuador went through its slow-motion collapse. I was there on a project, paid in dollars living back and forth between the jungle and the city. For me, it was a very happy time, I was in a beautiful country, working with nice people, and insulated from the problems around me (and from my own personal problems as well).

The country was bankrupt, however, government workers hadn’t been paid in months. They had just come out of a war, and at the end of the nineties oil had fallen to about $8 a barrel which is their primary source of income. The country couldn’t keep the lights on literally (but everyone has backup generators so no one notices). Cops, teachers, government workers hadn’t been paid in months. Then, when the currency went into its final free-fall, the government closed the banks, seized everyone’s personal bank accounts, and the national currency died.

For people whose jobs survived the crash, there was a month where all the food you had and all the money you had was whatever you had on hand at home. The guys working at site were guaranteed their three square meals but their families back home had it tough. Guys left the job to take cash to their families, if they had cash.

We wound up building some barracks and taking in some 300 soldiers; we didn’t need them for security but the government couldn’t afford to feed them. So we did, and just loaded it into the cost of the project.

What was interesting to me, though, was the fact that if you were a tourist, you wouldn’t notice anything amiss. Its still a beautiful country, still populated with beautiful people who are going about their daily lives. Lots of tourists raving about the bargains.

If you’re familiar with “ferfal” the Argentine blogger who writes about living in a collapsed economy, that is a point he makes. When the end of the world comes, everything still looks the same. It just isn’t. I think it took me a while for it to dawn on me that I had witnessed the very thing he was talking about.

Banks collapse. Currency collapses. Economy collapses. But to an outsider its just interesting and not that noticeable. Lots of bargains to be had.

But I speak the language and was working with these people, sitting across the dinner table from people listening to their conversations, and being a news-bug, always following the politics of the place. The Left ruin another country but for an outsider its just picturesque.

They ruin it, and then when someone steps up to do what is necessary, they whip up the fear in order to work their way into power. So the guy who had to save them wound up being overthrown by an alliance of Left-advised tribes, and army officers who were on Chavez’ payroll.

But they kept a lot of his reforms, because they worked.

In any case, for me, the end of the world comes when you lose your job and there isn’t another one to be had. Having witnessed the collapse of an economy I can see that there is a month while they re-organize the banks where you have to live out of your pantry (even if you have a job). If you lose your job in a collapsed economy, you may be out a year or two, so you have to be prepared to make your living from the unofficial economy, you have to create your own employment. You have to network with friends. You hope to have something you can rent out for income (rentals are in demand when no one can afford to buy). If you can get out of the country, you should. Wait for better days from someplace that still works. Ferfal the blogger has evidently relocated to Ireland. I knew Ecuadorians who went to Belgium and made their livings as illegal taxi drivers there, or handymen; it got them through. You can’t get work papers but nothing stops them from starting their own little enterprises and supporting themselves. So they do. Venezuelans have scattered all over the world taking their oil-skills with them; they are in demand. They will live abroad until the Chavez era ends.

When the US collapses, we will probably be forced to repatriate some of our mlitary, and that may well open pandora’s box; we may see war break out in places we hadn’t expected (or places we fully expected). So, combined with an economic crash, war or WW2 proportions, quite possibly, that may inevitably drag us back in. Because if Ecuador collapses, its bad for Ecuadorians. If the US collapses, its a tsunami and a power vacuum that triggers a chain reaction.

[W. W. SMITH]

Americans aren’t Nazis death camp operators, and Communist mass murderers just waiting to emerge.

are you forgetting Bill Ayers and his ilk?

[folkquest]

Zo.... vaht’s zo surprizing about zat? Verrrry interezting!

...but shtupid!

[ansel12]

I’m surprised that you identify the American peoples as “Bill Ayers and his ilk”, in that was true then we small number of exceptions better flee to the hills right this moment and count our lucky stars that Bill Ayers let us have the 2010 elections and the elections Tuesday where the tea party won so many victories.

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"Apparently you haven’t looked at who wears the military uniforms, right wing anti-Obama Christians, and the more combat oriented they are, then the more anti-Obama and anti-left.

In 2010 we had an historical political victory, and we have the military, and we have the masses, we have the vast American geography, the guns, the unity, the 20+ million veterans, I wouldn’t say that THEY are going to figure out how to herd us all into death camps anytime soon."

I am he whom you speak of. USMC SGT combat veteran. Christian, Eagle Scout, and I will not take up arms to protect Romney voters in defiance of God's judgement on this nation.

There are many, many like me, being restrained by God, rather than encouraged as in 1775.

The average enlistment in the military is 4 years and right now it is being overrun with gays. You do the math and figure out how long until we have the same kind of immoral military as Hitler's gay SS.

Nothing happens overnight, but a wise man recognizes the signs of trouble coming and prepares.

[null and void]

Quark: Let me tell you something about hu-mons, nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working... but take away their creature comforts deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers... put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same, friendly, intelligent, wonderful people will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.

[elcid1970]

My favorite Laugh-In sketch:

Chelsea Brown (”Don’t adjust your set, I’m colored.”) and James Garner approach from opposite sides of the set. She tells him she’s an admirer, seen all his movies, etc., and he replies “Your place or mine?” They link arms and walk offstage together.

Wolfgang appears and says “Verry interezting.... but right now, in Birmingham, dey’re showing a test pattern!”

[ansel12]

That is why I posted this.

“I don’t anticipate the death camps against the vast majority of Americans run by a tiny group of city living, non-enlisting, Christian haters from NYC, anytime soon.”

[ansel12]

That is why I posted this.

“I don’t anticipate the death camps against the vast majority of Americans run by a tiny group of city living, non-enlisting, Christian haters from NYC, anytime soon.”

[ansel12]

You don’t have to post every irrelevant thing that pops into your head, at least not to me.