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To: davisfh

Question: If Obama’s mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth, doesn’t that automatically make him an American citizen, no matter where he was born?


36 posted on 06/04/2012 9:02:30 AM PDT by CaribCarter
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To: CaribCarter
Question: If Obama’s mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth, doesn’t that automatically make him an American citizen, no matter where he was born

The law at the time prohibited this because five years since her 18th birthday had not passed when she gave birth to Dunham/Soetoro/Obama and his father was undisputably a foreign national. This issue concerning the law and his mothers age has been discussed at great length on FR. As well, Article 2 Sect 1 of the US Constitution requires the president to be a natural born citizen not "just" a citizen.

This quandary we see with Soetoro's citizenship isn't something new to presidential qualifications as Chester Alan Arthur was generally accepted as having dual citizenship with Canada and that was pretty big news back then.

43 posted on 06/04/2012 9:15:30 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: CaribCarter

No it does not!


47 posted on 06/04/2012 9:30:00 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: CaribCarter

“Question: If Obama’s mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth, doesn’t that automatically make him an American citizen, no matter where he was born?”

NBC is the issue - nothing else.(ps: NBC = Natural Born Citizen)


49 posted on 06/04/2012 9:32:01 AM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: CaribCarter

“If Obama’s mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth, doesn’t that automatically make him an American citizen, no matter where he was born?”

Possibly....most likely...maybe not...unfortunately, in any event, merely being a citizen is not the Constitutional requirement..... being a natural born citizen is. It’s a matter of language.....a natural born citizen is someone born in a country to parents who are it’s citizens. This is akin to a pedigree dog.

With only one citizen parent Obaqma Jr. isn’t a pedigree pup and and is ineligible to enter AKC events. In short, Obama is a mutt!

The Founders were clearly dog lovers and restricted the Presidency to Pedigreed pooches only! Again, Obama is a mutt!


58 posted on 06/04/2012 10:09:01 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: CaribCarter
Do some more reading

It seems there was a citizenship provision that the US citizne parent (mother) have lived in the US for 10 years, at least 5 of which were after the age of 14

teenager Ann Dunham gave birf to lil' Barry at age 18- she was too young to have conveyed US citizenship on a child born abroad to a non—US father

yes, a technicality among many other technicalities

But when it come to taking the US presidency by the letter of the US Constitution, the obamites are keenly aware of Constitutional technicalities

Remember his 2d secret inaugural swearing-in by Justice Roberts (closed to all press) supposedly because he got the words of the oath jumbled at the first ceremony?

Got to wonder what that might REALY have been about. the secrecy of it remains disturbing

63 posted on 06/04/2012 10:26:52 AM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: CaribCarter
If Obama’s mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth, doesn’t that automatically make him an American citizen, no matter where he was born?

Boy, are you about to get an education. Welcome to Free Republic.

According to the immigration and naturalization statutes which were in effect at the time of Obama's birth, his mother was not old enough to convey legal US citizenship to him UNLESS she gave birth to him within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

If she gave birth to Obama outside of the US, then he's not a US citizen, much less, a Natural Born Citizen (as required by the US Constitution).

66 posted on 06/04/2012 11:41:55 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: CaribCarter
Question: If Obama’s mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth, doesn’t that automatically make him an American citizen, no matter where he was born?

Nope, at the time he was born the law read that in order for a child to be born a citizen to a one citizen parent, when the birth was in another country, then the parent had to be a certain age(forget the exact age but she wasn't it)and have lived in the USA for a certain amount of years. Bozo's mother didn't qualify. The exact figures have been posted on FR dozens, if not hundreds, of times.

He is NOT a US citizen if he was born in Kenya. And there is a big difference between American citizen and Natural Born Citizen.

If being born in Kenya was no detriment then why the big shuffle by Bozo to post forgeries to prove his birth was in USA territory?

72 posted on 06/04/2012 2:27:41 PM PDT by calex59
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To: CaribCarter
“Question: If Obama’s mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth, doesn’t that automatically make him an American citizen, no matter where he was born?”

Only if she was of legal age at the time to convey citizenship, which she wasn't, BUT the purported FATHER was not EVER a US citizen therefor he is NOT ELIGABLE on that admitted fact alone. Not a natural born citizen because he only has one citizen parent. You must have two. That is the real issue, not where he was born.

87 posted on 06/04/2012 8:47:18 PM PDT by Spitzensparkin1 (Arrest and deport all illegal aliens. Americans demand those jobs back! Whooorah, Arizona!)
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