"Journalist" attempst to compare my books to the Turner Diaries

Western Rifle Shooters Association ^ | April 13, 2012 | Matt Bracken

[Travis McGee]

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 9:58 AM, J.M. Berger wrote:

Dear Mr. Bracken,

My name is J.M. Berger. I’m a journalist working on a story about the EFAD trilogy for the Daily Beast. I was wondering if you’d have a few minutes to discuss the book between Thursday and Sunday via phone or email. (My deadline is Monday and I am out of the office most of today.)

I can be reached at this address or at 202-656-XXXX any time starting tomorrow morning.

Best,

J.M.

— On Thu, 4/12/12, Matt Bracken wrote:

From: Matt Bracken

Subject: Re: Media query, #EFAD

To: “J.M. Berger”

Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 8:10 AM

Sure, I can do that. It’s now 8am Thursday and I’ll be off the grid until later this afternoon, but we can set up a call for anytime after that.

Matt

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:13 AM, J.M. Berger wrote:

Any time this afternoon or after is fine with me. Just let me know, or just call when it’s convenient.

Thanks very much,

JM

— On Thu, 4/12/12, Matt Bracken wrote:

From: Matt Bracken Subject: Re: Media query, #EFADTo: “J.M. Berger”

Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 8:48 AM

If you would prefer, we can use written Q&A format. Or, you could shoot me some questions that I could consider prior to a phone interview. In any case, I’ll be out of range until later this afternoon.

Matt

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:58 AM, J.M. Berger wrote:

I’m mainly interested in understanding the role you see the book playing for the Patriot movement (entertainment or educational or inspirational, etc.), and how the book reflects (or doesn’t) your own political views.

I’d also like to talk about the inevitable comparison to “The Turner Diaries.” I didn’t think the comparison was inevitable after Book One, but it’s difficult to avoid by the end of Book Three. I’m interested in what you think of Turner, whether you set out intentionally to modify or improve on what it represents, and what role you think racial politics play in the modern Patriot movement.

JM

— On Thu, 4/12/12, Matt Bracken wrote:

From: Matt Bracken Subject: Re: Media query, #EFADTo: “J.M. Berger”

Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 9:20 AM

Did you actually read all three novels? Every page? I’m probably going to punt on this interview if your point is to compare my work to the racist screed the Turner Diaries.

Assuming you will say that you did read all three novels, I’m guessing you are comparing FEAT to TTD based on bad actions by black characters in and around Memphis. Do you honestly think that after major earthquakes cut off W. TN (no water, no power etc), folks will all join across racial lines to sing kumbaya? There would be no racial element? Such a plot would be laughably unrealistic and PC. And do you find the murderously evil white vigilantes in FEAT to be portrayed sympathetically? Another “Turner Diaries?” Really? And did you miss the catharsis in racial feelings by Jenny?

I mean, seriously, did you read the damn novel, or skim it, or possibly just read the excerpts on my website?

If you have not read, (I mean, really read), all three novels, then forget it. Get back to me when you have.

And in any case, forget a phone interview. I can see already how that would go, when your “notes” become written words in your essay. Been there, done that, still got the scars, pal. Submit written Q&A only is how this will go, if it goes at all. My trust-o-meter is pegging the redline. My trust in “journalists” after a few decades dealing with them is below used car salesmen and hookers. I’ve given interviews, and seen my words turned via the magical process of “notes” into damnable lies. Fool me once, etc.

Matt

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 9:45 AM, J.M. Berger wrote:

I read all three novels. These are the reasons I think it’s valid to compare and contrast:

1) Both books are predicated around revolution/resistance tied to the seizure of guns,

2) The Memphis section of the third book clearly echoes the content of the Turner Diaries. My opinion about the credibility of anything you described is entirely irrelevant to that point unless you’re arguing from a belief that black cannibalism is a realistically inevitable outcome of the breakdown of society or an unavoidable literary imperative of some kind.

3) Nevertheless, you seem to be approaching racial content in a markedly different way than Pierce. This is also a valid point for comparison and contrast, which is not the same as saying the two books are equal or equivalent.

4) Since you asked, my view is that the breakthrough that Jenny experiences is an awfully weak counterweight against the Memphis stuff. I plan on acknowledging its presence, and the other factors you included as counterweights, but I think it’s appropriate to discuss it in context. The balance in Book 3 is clearly much different from Book 1.

I can understand your wanting to clearly distinguish your book from Turner, but I frankly don’t understand your outrage over the comparison. I think it’s pretty obvious and valid why one would discuss these two books together. To acknowledge the commonalities is not to equate the books on the basis of racial politics, writing or anything else.

So for some actual questions. I’ll start with these, and if you’re still willing to continue, I will send more.

1) Did you set out to do a political book in the form of a novel, or did you set out to write a novel that simply has political elements?

2) Did you consciously set out to write something that would be a non-racist or at least less racial alternative to The Turner Diaries as a text for the Patriot movement?

3) Would you describe yourself as part of the Patriot movement or as part of some other political wave?

4) Do you feel that the Patriot movement has historically had a racist component? Do you think it needs to change in this respect? If so, why?

Thanks for considering this request.

JM

From: Matt Bracken

To: J.M. Berger

Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:57 PM

Subject: Re: Media query, #EFAD

Mr Berger,

Let me take your approach for just a moment.

When did you stop beating your wife and children in drunken rages? Since we know that most journalists are drunken louts who beat their wives and kids, right?

Truthfully, most of the self-described “journalists” I have dealt with personally have been smarmy, lying SOBs, and I see you are typical of the breed.

AMF.

[Travis McGee]

Yes, boys and girls, Mr. Berger is a real-live "journalist" and would-be race-baiter.

This humorous little email string concerns my third novel, "Foreign Enemies And Traitors."

[skeeter]

Truthfully, most of the self-described “journalists” I have dealt with personally have been smarmy, lying SOBs, and I see you are typical of the breed.

Nicely done.

Hope you don't mind if I take some vicarious satisfaction from this exchange.

[Travis McGee]

This one is really fun. A real live LSM "journalist" thought I'd be stupid enough to walk into his trap-lined lair. A good laugh on a Friday night, I promise you.

And now I just can't wait to read his impartial review/essay in the Daily Beast. That will be an even bigger hoot, now that I've done pissed him off, being as I didn't play the gullible fool in his little one-act play.

[Darren McCarty]

I've read all three. If I'd compare it to anything, it would be Unintended Consequences. Some differences. It's been awhile since I read the third one, but it reminded me of Hurricane Katrina on a bigger scale.

I never read Turner Diaries, and don't plan to do so.

[dynachrome]

heh. You are wise not to bite. Hope he has to look up “AMF” and gets all p*ssy when he finds out what it means.

[Travis McGee]

I just hope he still writes the Daily Beast hit-piece.

It would be a darn shame if J.M. was skeered off by a little preemptive fun.

[The Shrew]

This is outstanding stuff. The leftist meme that the Patriot movement is racist is so ingrained in him that he doesn't even see that he is race-baiting. It's a shame really. But, I've quit taking up for these types. They are not intellectually honest.

I love how you've effectively rejected his premise and then published the discussion. This is great work!

Semper Fi,

TS

[Travis McGee]

That's the funny thing: I haven't read the Turner Diaries either.

Yet this "journalist" states that my work echoes them. That's kind of weird.

But you know how "journalists" are. They see things that mere mortals might miss.

[CodeToad]

Just another lefty looking to bash something not lefty. Threy would compare the Bible to the Turner Diaries if they thought they could get away with it. In fact, they actually have. They attempt to compare people that believe in the Bible with people that might such things as the Turner Diaries.

[Darren McCarty]

Oh, as for John "JM" Berger.

He's going to try and link you with this

[Joe Brower]

Don’t beat on him too much, Matt, after all... you’re engaged in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. < G!>

[skeeter]

Are you kidding? He had it written before he contacted you.

Your interview would've bore absolutely no resemblance to his review anyway.

[MestaMachine]

This is really bizarre considering that berger has been pretty much limited to writing and reporting on jihad and lately, American jihadis specifically.
He has a book of his own out there about American jihad. Haven’t checked to see how it is doing.
IIRC, he is also a producer and filmmaker.

[Travis McGee]

What is wrong with, “adieu, mon frère?”

[dynachrome]

LOL

[Travis McGee]

Didn’t they drum into our heads to assault through an ambush?

[Lurker]

Well done, Matt. Well done indeed.

[MestaMachine]

Intelwire is j m berger

http://news.intelwire.com/

[TADSLOS]

Great retort, Travis. This guy sounds like a typical media weasel looking to tag an “extremist”.

[null and void]

I’m never quite sure what AMF means.

Is the first word
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