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To: Travis McGee
1). If he had a full clip, then he was walking around with a chambered round. That is a dangerous thing to do and is greatly discouraged.

2). If he was inexperienced enough to walk around with a chambered round, then maybe he also didn't take good care of his sidearm and it just didn't work and re-chamber.

16 posted on 03/24/2012 9:24:10 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I never walk around with a gun in any other condition than with a round in the chamber. Nearly all modern guns have a safety mechanism other than the manual safety.

Some such as the Glock have no other type safety than internal ones which are de-activated by pulling the trigger. This is generally perfectly safe. It is also the way the guns were designed to be carried.


17 posted on 03/24/2012 9:28:30 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: FreeAtlanta

Do you actually know anything about firearms?


19 posted on 03/24/2012 9:31:00 AM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: FreeAtlanta
1). If he had a full clip, then he was walking around with a chambered round. That is a dangerous thing to do and is greatly discouraged.

Oh come on! You can't be serious!?!

Most CCW holders carry chambered. I know I do.

21 posted on 03/24/2012 9:31:57 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

“Walking around” with a chambered round is NOT dangerous, if you have any clue about what you are doing, and is NOT greatly discouraged except perhaps by someone who doesn’t have a clue what they are talking about.

If you are carrying a weapon for defensive purposes the last thing you would want to assume is that a murderous assailant is graciously going to give you the time to chamber a round.


23 posted on 03/24/2012 9:33:28 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: FreeAtlanta

No. I own that pistol, and it has a long DAO trigger pull, like a stiff revolver. It’s perfectly safe with a round chambered, and takes about a 12# pull over more than an inch.

Two: if the pistol simply “jammed” on the second shot, a round would have at least partially left the magazine. The report says one round was fired, and the mag was still full, indicating it was out of battery by being grabbed. If not, the 2nd round would have either chambered, or jammed before chambering, but it would not still be in the magazine.


27 posted on 03/24/2012 9:38:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: FreeAtlanta

You obviously do not know what you are talking about. You are either ignorant or pushing a anti 2nd amend. Agenda. No one advocates CCW carry unchambered. Furthermore, Every CCW course teaches that IF you take on the responsibility of carrying, you should carry fully loaded and ready to deploy. Carrying in such a way does not indicate inexperience nor can an inference as to maintenance be drawn from it. Carrying with A round in the chamber is neither dangerous nor discouraged. In fact, it is more dangerous to carry unchambered.


29 posted on 03/24/2012 9:38:53 AM PDT by 1malumprohibitum
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To: FreeAtlanta
If he had a full clip, then he was walking around with a chambered round. That is a dangerous thing to do and is greatly discouraged.

I guess you've never heard of "cocked and locked." It's a common carry mode with certain models of handgun.

30 posted on 03/24/2012 9:41:34 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
1). If he had a full clip, then he was walking around with a chambered round. That is a dangerous thing to do and is greatly discouraged.

Wow. That statement deserves the...


40 posted on 03/24/2012 9:55:26 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: FreeAtlanta
1). If he had a full clip, then he was walking around with a chambered round. That is a dangerous thing to do and is greatly discouraged.

You've got a major disconnect between your "if" and "then."
45 posted on 03/24/2012 9:58:02 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: FreeAtlanta

“1). If he had a full clip, then he was walking around with a chambered round. That is a dangerous thing to do and is greatly discouraged. “

Wrong.

You clearly don’t know much about guns. I CCW every day with one in the chamber. Everyone I know CCWs with one in the chamber. I have never heard anyone in an instuctional setting (and I have taken instruction well beyond the CCW class) say don’t carry one in the chamber. One in the chamber is the preferred way to carry any modern combat sidearm.


61 posted on 03/24/2012 10:19:09 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: FreeAtlanta

You should not offer firearms advice until you understand how they operate. From your statements, it is clear that you do not.


62 posted on 03/24/2012 10:19:35 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreeAtlanta
If he was inexperienced enough to walk around with a chambered round, then maybe he also didn't take good care of his sidearm and it just didn't work and re-chamber.

You had better have one chambered if you are carrying concealed, you will probably not have time to work the slide if you encounter trouble. Besides some judges might see the act of physically chambering a round an aggressive act. . Everyone I know who has a CCW carries with one in the chamber and safety on, even 1911s should be chambered and locked with safety strap between firing pin and hammer. Personally, I carry a revolver concealed so it is always ready to go, or do you think all chambers should be empty and I should load when I feel in danger?

Seems to me you are the one without experience if you carry unloaded.

65 posted on 03/24/2012 10:27:45 AM PDT by calex59
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To: FreeAtlanta
if it's not chambered, then you are carrying around nothing more than a really expansive club...
112 posted on 03/24/2012 3:34:00 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: FreeAtlanta
1). If he had a full clip, then he was walking around with a chambered round. That is a dangerous thing to do and is greatly discouraged.

You're describing what many call "Israeli Carry" condition. Not a practical mode of carry as possibly evidenced by this incident.

If Zimmerman was being attacked and was on the ground, defending against blows, how in the heck is he going to rack the slide and chamber a round?

If you carry, wear a secure holster that guards the trigger. If you present the sidearm, it had better be ready to go "BANG!" if you pull the trigger.

2). If he was inexperienced enough to walk around with a chambered round, then maybe he also didn't take good care of his sidearm and it just didn't work and re-chamber.

Now you are speculating on far reaching theories with virtually zero evidence. There has been no evidence presented on the condition of the firearm other than what we read in this article and other media sources. The round in the chamber was fired and it was loaded with a full magazine. I'm not going to assume anything other than what we know. To do anything else is as bad as those casting wild accusations against Zimmerman.

113 posted on 03/24/2012 4:24:37 PM PDT by Ghengis
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To: FreeAtlanta

If he hadn’t had the round chambered, it would have been possible that Zimmerman would be the dead one.


114 posted on 03/24/2012 4:28:04 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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