Posted on 03/23/2012 5:18:46 AM PDT by iontheball
On Dennis Miller’s radio show Thursday Lord Christopher Monckton, a former policy adviser to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and an activist against global warming “alarmism,” went all-in on questioning President Barack Obama’s citizenship.
Monckton, the 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, hinted about his position on the issue in April 2010 at a tea party rally on the National Mall near the White House. But on Miller’s show, he said the birth certificate issue was far more important that combatting so-called anthropogenic global warming.
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I forgot one:
Hater!
I think we give people like Dennis Miller more conservative cred than he deserves just because he finally saw the light about who the bad guys were after 9/11. A nice Neo-Con who is now hot for war but on most other issues still a Lib at heart.
I heard the interview with Monckton last night and couldn’t believe my ears that he got to blurt out so much great stuff like the fraudulent birth certificate and AGW scam. Dennis maintained that he doesn’t know whether AGW is true, but he sure is enjoying the early spring and lack of snow no matter what the reason is. Thank goodness Monckton knows his stuff because he responded exactly as I hoped and let Dennis know that Europe has just had one of the coldest winters - “Climate is what you expect and Weather is what you get” - great quote from Monckton.
So, Dennis, do your homework better or quit giving us your opinion as if you are the last word on moderation(same for all the other cowardly lions out there).
I don't cast my disdain that wide. The rank dishonesty depends on the issue. On Barack Obama's eligibility, and on the right to keep and bear arms, I agree, the federal and some state judiciaries are nearly totally corrupt.
But if youhave the misfortune of being in court to litigate a contract dispute, or most personal injury issues, the courts do a pretty good job of sifting through the evidence and reaching the correct conclusion.
Any skeptic who questions the whole birth story including the inauthenticity of all documents posted on the ‘Net has been dubbed a “Birther” - but the Media Goons carry that in another direction to “anyone who doubts that Barry Soetoro was born in America.” I have no idea where Barry was born. NO one does, and that’s the point. I think his babydaddy is some black guy that Stanley was dating while in high school in Seattle. So, that would make Barry a natural born citizen. No way Obama of Kenya is the babydaddy - he was a willing co-conspirator to the scam, which should surprise no one.
That digitally pasted copy of abstracts of different bits of data "on file," with the HIDOH was pretty darn good, if you ask me. Especially for a home job. Although I suspect that nice lady at Kinko's may have helped with the official looking green pattern paper.
"Sure, Ms. DMV Clerk, I have a title for that '54 MGTF... and here it is!"
"By golly, here's the deed to the ranch, Gene. Looks like I own it after all!"
"Well lookee here (not over there), Li'l Barry's Hawaii Birth Certificate!"
Never can tell what'll turn up in Grampa Dunham's little tin box. Your problem is an overly suspicious mind.
My Congressman (R) says "Obama was born in Hawaii," and he ought to know, right? Get with the program.
That means everything he's done is invalid.
including Obamacare,
including the appointments of Kagan and Sotomayor,
including the takeover of GM,
...
everything.
It was Jason Robards who played Ben Bradley ... thanks for the heads up. It sort of clicked in the memory bank when you mentioned Robards.
Using the ultra-modern, top-secret genetic computer programs that I have developed, I have scientifically proven beyond any shadow or scintilla of doubt that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (or II) is the:
It is the Louisiana Purchase that is a forgery! Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (or II) is our rightful King and Sovereign. O sure, you're in shock now. But you will say "Merci" to me later!
As a wise man once said, trust, but verify.
Didn’t find that convincing, sorry. He spent all of a few seconds on the time stamps.
What about the idea that the document was combined by the state of Hawaii or the hospital? I.e. they have the certificate on microfilm and then they add a security layer to it? That explains two of the layers and may also explain a different time stamp as well.
Exactly. Of course verification really doesn't matter to people like you if the best you can come up with is: "Now I don’t know what to think." Reagan was a great man and a great president. He made choices, and didn't sit on the fence forever saying... gee, I don't know what to think. Try to be like Reagan. Trust your gut.
If there is a Real Estate Title Office near you, ask any Title Officer what the difference is between a "Certified Copy," and an "Abstract." E.G., there is a "An Abstract of Deed," which may, or more likely may not, have all of the info that is on the actual Deed, and thus would be in a "Certified Copy" of the Deed.
What we don't know, as you quite correctly point out, is exactly who put the digital data from various sources into the one document. Neither do we know what was in the document picked up in Hawaii by Obama's lawyers. Since the WH released it, it legally their responsibility.
And that is strange, too. If there indeed is a BC on file, the normal procedure would be to photocopy it, certify it as a true copy of the original document on file and FEDEX it, or perhaps telephonically or digitally fax it on over. This is done every day in every city in the country!
If there were a simple explanation, it would have been proffered. Instead, a blinding fog, an Obamian miasma, a cloud of boolshiite has descended over the whole thing.
Personally, I believe there is no Birth Certificate. On the odd chance one does exist, I'll bet it is the old Hawaiian canard, "The Certificate of Home Birth." An Hawaiian (wink-wink) institution that flourished for 60 years or so, this usually handwritten document is the attestation of witnesses and relatives that little Wong, Hiro, or Barry, was born in Grandma's pad down on Fungi Street. The truth of the matter is that Hawaii is awash with Filipinos, Chinese, Japanese, and Pacific Islanders of every sort who have this kind of documentation, usually issued several years after the fact of their birth is some far off land! If you're going to be POTUS, this would be a good thing to hide.
A Honolulu Dog License? Now that's a reliable Hawaiian document from the past.
Trusting your gut is fine for the initial hypothesis, but at some point the evidence takes over.
This guy applied the Optimize PDF feature to a scan and got a document that looks an awful like the released BC—layers, clipped text, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXdtQ2FU4Ww
The BC is obviously not a simple scan and of course has been manipulated. But is that manipulation due to human forgery, or a software process breaking it up?
If you think “verification doesn’t matter” to me, you don’t know me very well. I’ve spent my adult life digging into data, and I have almost 20 years experience with Photoshop. I’ll go where the evidence leads me.
It’s very simple. Show me why the BC could not have come out of an Optimize PDF function.
Let's get a guy's name 'right', on this thread IN PARTICULAR where there's all this yammering 'bout identities: Jason Robards, Jr..
I can make no statements about what is or is not on file in HI, and if those are or are not legal/certified/whatever. I’ll leave that to the professionals in those fields.
My field is desktop publishing. So that’s why I waded into this issue originally. The WH-released BC has layers and very odd discrepancies like anti-aliased/multicolor text together with sharp black text—which absolutely points to some kind of alteration of the scan. There’s no way those two kinds of text should be appearing together without some kind of digital manipulation.
However—it hasn’t been proven to my satisfaction that said manipulation was human in origin. If, as it sure seems, the Optimize PDF function can do these kinds of things all by itself, then there’s an innocent explanation here that needs to be taken into account before everyone (including me) screams “forgery!”
You are still assuming that *someone* cut and pasted digital data. I am not there yet. Particularly since, from this Photoshop user’s perspective, if this was a forgery it was done so HIDEOUSLY badly that I have trouble believing the WH would be that stupid. Craven, yes. But not that stupid.
Busted again! That's absolutely true. However, I think that I am merely "cutting to the chase!"
Rationale: My the hell wouldn't they just copy the damn thing, certify it, and FEDEX it on over? Why the hell send a lawyer @$200/hr.(+) all the way to Honolulu to pick up an Abstract?
What I have been trying to push on the site is that, IMNSVHO, there is sufficient reason for any State AG to throw the boy off the ballot in his state, forcing this to court so we can get to the bottom of this business. As it is now, we can't even get a court to look! To me, the trick is to make Obama the PLAINTIFF. Not the DEFENDENT. No questions about "standing" there!
I have no idea who this guy is, what he is, where he's from ... that ain't right.
“Once he’s out of office - the competition for books, movies and confessions will begin.”
That could be decades from now.
Not me! Remember that week they trotted out their new slogan with bells and whistles?
It came complete with a glossy WTF logo. It was none other than Sarah Palin who was the only one to ask,
Last we heard of that!
Your guess is as good as mine! I still can’t fathom that that tricked-out pdf is what he released *as proof* in the first place.
Ha...yes I remember WTF. I stand corrected! :)
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