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Why did the DHS just order 450 million rounds of .40 caliber ammunition?
Fellowship of the Minds ^ | Steve

Posted on 03/19/2012 6:39:45 PM PDT by angelcindy

DHS ALSO HAS A BID OUT FOR 175 MILLION ROUNDS OF . 223 OR M-16/

REQUIREMENT: The total requirement is to provide an estimated 33 million rounds of .223 Remington Caliber SD and 2 million rounds of .223 Remington Caliber EP ammunition in the base year and an estimated 33 million rounds of .223 Remington Caliber SD and 2 million rounds of .223 Remington Caliber EP ammunition in each of four option years in accordance with Attachment 2, Statement of Work for .223 Remington Caliber SD and .223 Remington Caliber EP Ammunition.

The Department of Homeland security has just executed an order for enough rounds of 40 caliber ammunition to kill every man, woman and child in the United States.

A shocking new defense contract entered by the Department of Homeland Security to secure a massive amount of ammunition, with the option for infinite supply and infinite delivery, raises the question of just what they are preparing for? Massive civil unrest? An invasion by a foreign power?

The order is to supply 450 million rounds of .40 caliber ammunition, which is more than one bullet for every single person in the United States.

The contract also comes with the additional caveat that the order is forward-looking, which means it can be revised upward or downward depending on a variety of factors, some of which also happen to contribute to civil unrest — including governmental spending, budgetary policies and economic conditions.

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To: jonrick46
Who shoots with .40 caliber?

DHS agents do, as they are required to go through rigorous range training, where each agent shoot 1587 rounds per day, 6 days a week, for 6 months before qualifying. After qualifying, they are expected to fire 2000 rounds per day, but for only 5 days per week. After 2 years, they are expected to re-qualify.

81 posted on 03/19/2012 9:46:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: angelcindy

Its to do with the upcoming Supreme Court decision on Obama care.

They feel CW2 is right around the corner.


82 posted on 03/19/2012 10:41:05 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Obama proved in Texas- that health care ,like all fed programs, is a political compliance weapon.)
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To: dragnet2
Seems like a lot of ammo for an agency which is seldom, if ever involved in a gun fight.

DHS includes the Border Patrol, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the Coast Guard, Air Marshals, the Federal Protective Service (formerly the protective division of the Secret Service, which was under Treasury), and the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center.

That last one, if it's doing its job, probably goes through more ammo than all the others combined.

83 posted on 03/19/2012 10:56:30 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError
Border patrol? Air Marshals? Federal Law Enforcement Training Center?

Well, in that case, I would assume they would need about 750 million rounds. 450 million seems a bit short.

Gezzz..

84 posted on 03/19/2012 11:04:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ReignOfError
Ya know whats funny is, DHS, the Border Patrol, Immigration and Customs Enforcement needs 450,000,000 rounds, yet we've got upwards of 25 million illegal aliens in country, during war time..

What are they shooting at?

85 posted on 03/19/2012 11:09:33 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
"DHS agents are required to go through rigorous range training, where each agent shoots 1587 rounds per day, 6 days a week, for 6 months before qualifying.

They may be able to shoot a squirrel at 100 yards, but the shoulder joint, if it is a rifle, or the joints of the hand can experience severe medical problems with an ill-fitting handgun. Some say the recoil of a .40 caliber is worse than a .45 caliber because it is snappier, causing a hard jolt to the hand, or to the shoulder. After shooting 1587 rounds in a day, I could see a DHS agent in real trouble from joint pain.

86 posted on 03/19/2012 11:25:34 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: Vermont Lt

I believe that ALL Army members have to go through annual ARMS qualifications every year.

I served in Army bands and had to qualify in physical fitness as well in rifle quals and I also had to go through the gas chamber every year along with yearly qualification on whatever instruments I was expected to qualify on.

That last item was especially interesting because I had to qualify as a Euphonium/baritone player as well as on tuba which was my major. I never played baritone in the band although I did play trumpet and French Horn as well as tuba.

The army expected all band members to qualify on a secondary instrument and baritone was more likely than either french horn or trumpet to be the secondary instrument.

The two bands I was in, 5th Army at Ft Sheridan Illinois and the 74th Army band at Ft Benjamin Harrison Indiana also had to go through a yearly qualification unit wide.


87 posted on 03/20/2012 3:52:57 AM PDT by dglang
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To: mnehring

Almost all the law enforcement has now gone to .40 or some to .10 MM. Mostly .40 so I would agree with you that they are buying for some other reason that drying up the supply.

It could be many things and none of it good for you and me.


88 posted on 03/20/2012 8:39:01 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: jonrick46
I was being facetious.

Some here think DHS ordering tens of hundreds of millions of rounds of ammo, is perfectly legitimate.

It's freaking nuts.

89 posted on 03/20/2012 8:53:24 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: FoxInSocks

But how many for only III% of the population?


90 posted on 03/20/2012 8:57:36 AM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: jonrick46; ReignOfError
I was told DHS is also the Border Patrol, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and told they need 450,000,000 (million) rounds, yet we've got upwards of 25 million illegal aliens in country, with a never ending conga-line of tens of hundreds of thousands entering illegally, unabated.

Anyone have any idea what they're shooting at?

Anyone??

91 posted on 03/20/2012 8:57:50 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

It is nuts. Maybe an ammo manufacturer is an Obama Regime crony.


92 posted on 03/20/2012 11:11:11 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: mnehring

Thanks, they have a fun web page. Looks like overkill for the present but staying ahead is the game plan, I guess. :)


93 posted on 03/20/2012 3:01:54 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: dragnet2
Sorry, but I do not understand. You believe HS shouldn't buy ammunition? Or are we now talking about something else? The budget deficit? What is your point relative to the post? Non sequitur?
94 posted on 03/20/2012 6:19:16 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
It is called “procurement.” Lots of government agencies do it.

Yes, we know lots of government agencies do it.

It's like that when they use other people's money.

Even when they're broke, bankrupt and 14 trillion in the hole!

Sorry, but I do not understand. You believe HS shouldn't buy ammunition?

Not what I said Missy, read the above again slowly. They got no damn business or money for purchasing hundreds of millions of pistol rounds.

BTW, I was told DHS is also the Border Patrol, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and told they need 450,000,000 (million) rounds.

Yet we've got upwards of 25 million illegal aliens in country, with a never ending conga-line of tens of hundreds of thousands entering illegally, unabated, during war time yet.

Anyone have any idea what they're shooting at with all this ammo?

How about you Lydia?

95 posted on 03/20/2012 9:04:17 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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