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To: Candor7
The Arizona Sheriffs Cold Case investigators have made a probable cause case that the birth certificate alleged to be Obamas and posted by Obama’s agents as authentic, is a fraud.

I would say that just about anything you can come up with as documentary alternate proof has already been thoroughly vetted. These trained investigators are not pikers and have resources that you do not, that none of us have.

Obama himself had spent nearly 2 million dollars in obscuring the true facts of his documentation, in travel expenses and legal fees , before the DOJ took over the task from Obama’s private funding using his campaign chest ( yes he did get permission from the Federal Election Commission to spend the money to obscure his birth facts.

The fact is that we do not know who Obama really is, we have only a documentary construct of who Obama wants US ALL to think who he is.And your theory of adoption results only in further obscuration. Its time to get to clarity on the defacto ( not dejure) situs of Obama's birth, and his parentage, as well as his subsequent travels under both his Indonesian and US Passports.

If you do not see the constitutional necessity of the initiative undertaken by the Arizona Cold Case investigators, my conclusion is the same as Freeper Jarofants:

Pretty harsh for someone who has done nothing to you. I'm not discounting the competence of the investigators, I am simply suggesting that they may not have considered the Adoption/replacement birth certificate angle.

I have personal first hand knowledge of it because it applies to *ME*. Were it not for the fact that I happen to have two birth certificate documents, I very likely wouldn't have thought of this idea either.

You are a newbie TROLL who seeks only to further muddy the waters of the issue, rather than to clarify them.

You seriously do not know me. As for muddying the waters, do you think they can get more muddy?

So who do you respect on this forum? Do you know Red Steel, Fantasy Writer, Rxsid, Edge919, Frog in a Pot, Spaulding, Butterzillion, etc ?

Tell me who you know that discusses this birth certificate issue, and it is likely they are familiar with my writing on this issue.

I may have only been here for a year, but I bet i've written more about this subject than most people have in three years. You should do me the courtesy of addressing my arguments, and at least reviewing what I have written over this past year before jumping to the conclusion that I am a troll.

46 posted on 03/01/2012 3:34:03 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I have to go feed my kids, i’ll come back to respond further when I can.


47 posted on 03/01/2012 3:34:40 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp; mojitojoe; Danae; butterdezillion

Your argumants are specious. Have you not been reading as much as you have allegedly posted? Adoption is a red herring at this point. Why cling to it? What is your point? It appears to be obfuscation of the real issue at hand: Forgery. Why do you cling so desperately to your own personal theory?

The topic is and will now be forgery.Certainly you must have read Polarik’s opus and those who did subsequent forgery research whose names all are on posts in this thread.

As I said, your motives appear to be very doubtful here.We can’t really let the Orly Taitz gang gain any traction eh?/S

Get past it.

And the REAL investigation is now underway, a probable cause finding has now launched a very comprehensive investigation into the forgery itself. Thats a very good thing.

And those many, many Freepers who have treated the issue as a forgery on the face of the documents at hand are now vindicated.They have helped tremendously to bring the matter forward to this point, in Arizona.


50 posted on 03/01/2012 4:11:48 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: DiogenesLamp; Candor7
You are a newbie TROLL who seeks only to further muddy the waters of the issue

Gee whiz. It seems everyone's a troll anymore. Even me.

189 posted on 03/02/2012 11:10:32 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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