Society’s Five Stages of Economic Collapse

SHTF Plan ^ | 2/28/12 | David Meyer

[Kartographer]

Society as we know it will break down and collapse in a five stage process outlined here. While it can be accelerated by certain events like war, a natural disaster, pandemic, terrorist attack, or even an impending asteroid impact, history has shown that economic collapse will essentially happen in this five stage process. To survive the collapse, it is important to read and interpret the signs and understand what assets are important to the current situation so you can be prepared for the worst thereby allowing you to survive intact and with as little damage as possible.

[CottonBall]

You know somethings are cheap but nutritious in small amounts, so you may want to stock up on them....sauerkraut and cans of sardines

Sardines I can see, but sauerkraut?

[JDW11235]

Ah, thanks bgill. You’re always a fountain of information, and I appreciate it. I love lamb, so that may be the clincher, but really I’m trying to look at an overall easy maintainance animal. We currently have about 50 goats on the property, but they’re not ours. (I’m moving, hence I’ll be able to get some of my own). I have never noticed the smell, but ut may be because of the several hundred cattle within a few hundred yards, and 50 or so within about 200 feet of the front door, lol. The smell from the cattle used to bother me, and still does when the snow first melts, but other than that, I don’t even notice it.

Now, dog doo, that’s terrible, and I can smell it at 50 yards.

Do you happen to know if goat droppings are a pretty good fertilizer? Do they require a lot of maintence? Is there much work involved in them. It doesn’t seem like it, since the people that take care of these goats seldom come by, especially in some months of the year. Can you tell me, does a goat require a lot of room? Sorry to ask so many questions, I’m just very curious, as it’ll be a semi-major investment.

[Donnafrflorida]

Like you I am overwhelmed. Got baking ingredients but little flour. Weapon but little ammo. Cereal but little dry milk.
Just ‘learning how to can n garden. Don’t know how much time we have.

[Donnafrflorida]

Like you I am overwhelmed. Got baking ingredients but little flour. Weapon but little ammo. Cereal but little dry milk.
Just ‘learning how to can n garden. Don’t know how much time we have.

[Iron Munro]

You know somethings are cheap but nutritious in small amounts, so you may want to stock up on them

Inexpensive food: Ramen Noodles

Stock up on bulk beans, rice, pasta. (don't forget the salt)

"How to Survive Hard Times"

How to Start Preparing for Hard Times on a Very Modest Budget
A 30-Day Emergency Food Supply for One Adult
One-Year Emergency Food Supply for One Adult
The Basic Minimum Necessities for Survival During Hard Times

[goodnesswins]

See the two citations below....I consider it a possible WINTER vegetable that’s cheap and easy, stores well, and for a LONG time.....I don’t know where they think it has lots of sugar content from what I see....

NutritionData’s Nutrition Data’s Opinion

The good: This food is low in Saturated Fat, and very low in Cholesterol. It is also a good source of Calcium and Magnesium, and a very good source of Dietary Fiber, Vitamin C, Vitamin K, Vitamin B6, Folate, Iron, Potassium, Copper and Manganese.

The bad: This food is very high in Sodium, and a large portion of the calories in this food come from sugars.

Or see this...
http://www.nutrientfacts.com/FoodPages/nutritionfacts/nutritionfacts_sauerkraut.htm

[blam]

"Sardines I can see, but sauerkraut?"

Sauerkraut has anti-viral properties. I keep some in storage just for that reason.

[goodnesswins]

YES, that TOO!

[CottonBall]

Sauerkraut has anti-viral properties. I keep some in storage just for that reason.

Do you keep it canned (as from the store) or is there a better way to long-term storage?

Thanks to both of you for the info.

[CottonBall]

yesterday, a few of my fellow nurses were just talking after work...some of them barry voters....and everyone is just scared...scared of all the violence...scared of something that no one can put a finger on...all talked about getting passports...

and then after work, I stopped for milk and just had this overwhelming sinking feeling...like everything could just disappear instantly...

Interesting that Obama voters aren't swallowing the koolaid that everything is peachy and will be great by the election.

I think that too, when I see how fragile the system is that brings food to the grocery stores. A few missed shipments and the riots will begin.

Good for you for stocking up. Every bit helps, just keep adding to it when you can.

[CottonBall]

Like you I am overwhelmed. Got baking ingredients but little flour. Weapon but little ammo. Cereal but little dry milk. Just ‘learning how to can n garden. Don’t know how much time we have.

Just start, a bit at a time. Like you, I was overwhelmed when I first started prepping a couple of years ago. There was - and still is - so much to do and learn. Just start and do what you have time and money for. I don't think the collapse is around the corner (but don't quote me on that!). I'm hoping it will wait until we get settled in a rural area and can have self-sustaining crops and critters. Until then, I have superpails of wheatberries and beans - makes a complete protein. And precious metals, like lead, to protect my supplies ;)

[blam]

"Do you keep it canned (as from the store) or is there a better way to long-term storage? "

Canned, from the store. Properly stored it will last over thiry years in the can.
The only concern for long term storage in the cans is that BPA will leak out of the coating that is inside the can. In 5-20 years from now, if I'm having to eat out of those cans...BPA will be the least of my worries.

BPA Should You Worry?

[DollyCali]

BTTT

[CottonBall]

Thanks for the link and info.

In a campaign called "Cans Not Cancer," the Breast Cancer Fund urges canned food manufacturers to substitute BPA with something safer -- a feat Campbell's Sanzio said is easier said than done.

And whatever it is replaced with will cause something else. There's no substitute for good ol' mason jars (if you're strong enought to carry 'em and careful not to break them.)

[bgill]

Cow manure smells like money to me!

The goats didn’t take any effort. They’re happy doing what goats do. Just watch out for the horns as they can get pushy.

Stay away from white leghorns if you ever get into chickens. They’re good egg layers but they’re mean little things. They like dive bombing humans and pecking their peers. Plymoths Rocks and Rhode Island Reds are more even tempered, ymmv.

[Kartographer]

Sauerkraut I can see, but sardines? I guess I could use them as lures for stay cats. ;-)

[Kartographer]

Cherry and anyone else that is just starting out or those that may be old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf

NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

Lastly this for the doubters and the scoffers.

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.

Underestimation can be fatal.”

[CottonBall]

LOL! Opposite points of view, I guess ;)

I actually like the little fishes, good on saltines. My cats, however, wouldn’t touch them!

[editor-surveyor]

Pasta should be stored in plastic bags that are sealed, and kebt in a room temp dry place. The freezer will degrade it. Fill your freezer with butter and coconut oil.

Pasta is a really poor choice of food; it destroys your health rapidly, so use it sparingly. Canned or pickled vegetables and meats are a far better choice, along with powered grasses and algae.

[sport]

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