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Ethicists Argue in Favor of ‘After-Birth Abortions‘ as Newborns ’Are Not Persons’
The Blaze ^ | 02-27-12 | Liz Klimas

Posted on 02/27/2012 5:18:33 PM PST by Lazlo in PA

Two ethicists working with Australian universities argue in the latest online edition of the Journal of Medical Ethics that if abortion of a fetus is allowable, so to should be the termination of a newborn.

Alberto Giubilini with Monash University in Melbourne and Francesca Minerva at the Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics at the University of Melbourne write that in “circumstances occur[ing] after birth such that they would have justified abortion, what we call after-birth abortion should be permissible.”

The two are quick to note that they prefer the term “after-birth abortion“ as opposed to ”infanticide.” Why? Because it “[emphasizes] that the moral status of the individual killed is comparable with that of a fetus (on which ‘abortions’ in the traditional sense are performed) rather than to that of a child.” The authors also do not agree with the term euthanasia for this practice as the best interest of the person who would be killed is not necessarily the primary reason his or her life is being terminated. In other words, it may be in the parents’ best interest to terminate the life, not the newborns.

The circumstances, the authors state, where after-birth abortion should be considered acceptable include instances where the newborn would be putting the well-being of the family at risk, even if it had the potential for an “acceptable” life. The authors cite Downs Syndrome as an example, stating that while the quality of life of individuals with Downs is often reported as happy, “such children might be an unbearable burden on the family and on society as a whole, when the state economically provides for their care.”

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To: Lazlo in PA
The two are quick to note that they prefer the term “after-birth abortion“ as opposed to ”infanticide.”

These are "ethicists" arguing that calling an act B instead of A changes it ethically. To call that position suspect is to be far too charitable.

21 posted on 02/27/2012 5:52:48 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Lazlo in PA
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Admin/BkFill/Default_image_group/2011/8/2/1312301405828/Gregory-Peck-as-Dr-Josef--007.jpg

Dr. Mengele Approves!

22 posted on 02/27/2012 5:53:37 PM PST by KC_Lion (I will NEVER vote for Romney, the GOP will go the way of the Whigs if they nominate him)
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To: Califelephant

Yes.


23 posted on 02/27/2012 5:53:46 PM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: zot; SeraphimApprentice; Interesting Times

And the abortion people keep pushing the “envelope.” Next step is that a woman has the right to choose to abort the fetus if it is less than 18 years after the fetus exits the birth womb as a “post-partum” procedure.


24 posted on 02/27/2012 5:54:29 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GeronL
I guess the attacks accusing the GOP of wanting to violate women’s rights to kill their born baby is next.

That is already here. "Safe Haven" laws - the legal opportunity for a mother to abandon a baby - exist because of the epidemic of women murdering their born babies. It all springs from the idea that women own the children.

25 posted on 02/27/2012 5:56:18 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: Seraphicaviary

Depends on the Greeks. They may be fans of Plato and fancy themselves philosopher kings, or Spartans since they supposedly practiced infanticide as well.


26 posted on 02/27/2012 5:57:53 PM PST by 31R1O
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To: Lazlo in PA

I’ll accept their reasoning once they walk the walk instead of talking the talk. They should be willing to cease their own lives if they really feel this way.

Otherwise, it’s just another bunch of kill freaks finding a way to get their jollies off by killing kids.

Sometimes, like this particular time, people absolutely disgust me.


27 posted on 02/27/2012 5:59:45 PM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Good thing that conservatives and Christianity is not genetic.


28 posted on 02/27/2012 6:00:43 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Lazlo in PA

People are freaking about this, but this really seems like a classic “demonstrating absurdity by being absurd” move.


29 posted on 02/27/2012 6:00:52 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Lazlo in PA
I proclaim today that I am a super-ethicist. I declare that ethicists who support infanticide are not persons. Therefore we are free to kill them.

We must not break any littering laws in the process, though, and all carcasses must be either eaten or disposed of in a responsible manner so as not to cause the spread of disease.

This is good for the planet, too, so it is our moral responsibility to kill at least one such ethicist or hire someone to kill one for us ASAP, until they are extinct.

As a super-ethicist, no one is allowed to dispute any ethical statement I make, not even the labor unions or Occupy and its various derivatives.

30 posted on 02/27/2012 6:04:20 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: AlmaKing

You said exactly what I was thinking.


31 posted on 02/27/2012 6:07:24 PM PST by stansblugrassgrl (PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!! YEEEEEHAW!)
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To: Lazlo in PA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerhard_Kretschmar

This is how it starts.


32 posted on 02/27/2012 6:09:00 PM PST by ClaudiusI
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To: Lazlo in PA

The door to this was opened a long time ago. This is sick, evil, barbaric.

But this is Roe v. Wade(and prior pro-death “legalizations” i.e. euthanasia) taken to it’s logical conclusion. Anybody who didn’t see this coming is in for a rude awakening.

All the more reason I will not vote for a pro-abortion candidate, ever, whether D or R.

No Romney, no way!! FUBO!


33 posted on 02/27/2012 6:14:58 PM PST by madmaximus (Romney=Hitler Obama=Stalin. Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: Cyman

There are over seven billion lesser people inhabiting their earth, and they have put up with us long enough.

When you consider human life less valuable than an a so called endangered species, what do you expect?


34 posted on 02/27/2012 6:18:44 PM PST by itsahoot (Much easier to tear down a building, than to build one. Bigger mess though.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Today the “ethicists” argue for post-birth abortion, tomorrow they will argue to post-lived-a-good-life abort grandma who needs a new hip, and either cremate her to heat the swimming pool or make Soylent Green biscuits our of her.


35 posted on 02/27/2012 6:19:01 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Lazlo in PA

“Two ethicists...”

Yet another made up profession for useless liberal arts grads to occupy.


36 posted on 02/27/2012 6:20:03 PM PST by Aglooka ("I was out numbered 5-to-1, I got 4.")
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To: Lazlo in PA
The "ethicists" are late for their appointment to become "soylent green". Just as they argue the newborn is not human, it appears that they have spanned the gap to the other end of life where they too are no longer human. A "post human" termination would be best for them.
37 posted on 02/27/2012 6:22:17 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Lazlo in PA

We can now declare Godwin’s Law null and void.


38 posted on 02/27/2012 6:22:26 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Dr. Mengele I presume.

This is EXACTLY the kind of thinking used by the nazis.

39 posted on 02/27/2012 6:26:00 PM PST by Aglooka ("I was out numbered 5-to-1, I got 4.")
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To: Lazlo in PA

Not surprised whatsoever this is what things have come to.


40 posted on 02/27/2012 6:44:41 PM PST by chessplayer
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