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To: allmendream; Brown Deer; GregNH; DiogenesLamp; cynwoody; El Sordo
"The question was why birthers still believe in an easily debunked by anyone with fifteen seconds and a brain “Pakistan Travel Ban” after THREE YEARS?"

That is a bs, evasive generalization. Folks who hold to that discredited theory are in the distinct minority, to the point of being vanishingly so, amongst those who actually pay close attention to this issue. Okay, so there was no travel ban (only an advisory) on travel to Pakistan in 1981. Got it.

Now, you may choose not to answer the question you've been so artfully ducking and deflecting this whole time, but I'll present it to you again, as has been done already in this thread: Do you believe that he traveled to Pakistan on a US passport, and if so, what evidence leads you to that conclusion? Just why did "Obama" stop in Indonesia on his way there, when it has been shown that his mother was not in that country at the time, his narrative in Ayers' his book to that effect not withstanding?

Since I'm a fair-minded person who prefers clear and open debate, I've even pinged a couple of your "anti-birther" buddies to weigh in. Wouldn't want to get accused of "circling the wagons, after all . . ."

52 posted on 02/14/2012 3:39:52 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

You really think “allmendream” is interested in reality? As a confounder and fogger he, she or it is only interested in latching onto any stray bits of straw, fluff and lint with which to make strawmen for arcane voodoo rituals.

The truth is the OVERWHELMING majority of persons questioning Obama’s birth legends have known for three years now that travel to Pakistan wasn’t officially banned, it just frowned upon and took a few more hurdles to carry out.


55 posted on 02/14/2012 3:52:14 PM PST by bvw
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
I believe he traveled to Pakistan. I have no idea if he had a U.S. passport or otherwise.

What I do know is that there was absolutely zero bar from him or any other U.S. passport holder entering Pakistan because of a supposed “travel ban”.

What I do know is that THREE YEARS AGO an elected Republican and a conservative made a fool of himself and the entire birther movement by talking about a “Pakistan Travel Ban” on CNN.

Way to go there champ!

And if the idiot birthers on this thread had their way - that would be chapter and verse of birther lore - and woe unto anyone who DARE to point out the TRUTH!!!

Do you see how attacking anyone who points out the truth - and allowing the untruth to be posted unchallenged - leads to those who would most like to carry water for your movement shooting themselves in the foot?

Do you think birthers have to desperately cling to and fanatically defend even the UNTRUE things that would cast suspicion on the eligibility of 0bama?

They sure seem to!

Do they need to?

Is doing so a good thing?

56 posted on 02/14/2012 3:56:51 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...

Okay, so there was no travel ban (only an advisory) on travel to Pakistan in 1981. Got it.

Now, you may choose not to answer the question you've been so artfully ducking and deflecting this whole time, but I'll present it to you again, as has been done already in this thread: Do you believe that he traveled to Pakistan on a US passport, and if so, what evidence leads you to that conclusion? Just why did "Obama" stop in Indonesia on his way there, when it has been shown that his mother was not in that country at the time, his narrative in Ayers' his book to that effect not withstanding?

57 posted on 02/14/2012 3:58:46 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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