[2ndDivisionVet]

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts

[justa-hairyape]

And the Khmer Rouge went after all the people they thought were intelligent.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Mixing a political view of any kind in with conduct that has been banned by law, is the very sign of a witch and warlock hunt. What crime, even the most technical and controversial one, is constituted by a political view? This pronouncement appears to be full of Rat droppings.

[Sprite518]

Wow so the FBI is targeting people for having a different political opinions....

Just as the Founding Fathers envisioned. (sarcasm off)

[Carthego delenda est]

Not enough on Zero Hedge...

[dog breath]

I had an acquaintance who was totally off the grid, never had a Social Security Card or paid taxes and as far as the government knew did not exist. He was from a very self sufficient Kentucky family and worked always on a cash only basis, he could fix about anything broken, wire a building and was a man of many talents. I have another friend who while not from such a background is slowly fading off the grid into the West Virginia hills. He went from being very much in the system, he was a old Navy guy, to rejecting the world. He shares the ability to do about anything for himself, such people have convinced me that a true education is not just about books.

[rfp1234]

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[TigersEye]

"...and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard."

It did. By design.

And certainly almost no one who voted in November, 1932 for a sound gold standard money according to the Glass money plank in the platform could have believed that less than a year later, in a radio address reviewing the extraordinary monetary acts of the New Deal, the President would be saying: "We are thus continuing to move toward a managed currency."

(snip)

The third step was a decree by the President requiring all persons and corporations whatever to divest themselves of gold and hand it over to the government. The law authorizing him to do that had fixed the penalty of non-compliance at a fine equal to twice the value of the gold. The executive decree added the penalty of imprisonment.

In view of further intentions not yet disclosed it was imperative for the government to get possession of all the gold. With a lot of gold in private hands its control of money, banking, and credit could have been seriously challenged. All that the government asked for at first was possession of the gold, as if it were a trust. For their gold as they gave it up people received paper money, but this paper money was still gold standard money — that is to say, it had always been exchangeable for gold dollar for dollar, and people supposed that it would be so again, when the crisis passed. Not a word had yet been said about devaluing the dollar or repudiating the gold standard. The idea held out was that a: people surrendered their gold they were supporting the nation's credit.

This decree calling in the gold was put forth or April 5. There was then an awkward interlude. The Treasury was empty. It had to sell some bonds. If people knew what was going to happen they might hesitate to buy new Treasury bonds. Knowing that it was going to devalue the dollar, knowing that it was going to repudiate the gold redemption clause in its bonds, even while it was writing the law of repudiation, the government nevertheless issued and sold to the people bonds engraved as usual, that is, with the promise of the United States Government to pay the interest and redeem the principal "in United States gold coin of the present standard of value."

(snip)

The fifth step was the act of repudiation. By resolution June 5, 1933, the Congress repudiated the gold redemption clause in all government obligations, saying they should be payable when due in any kind of money the government might see fit to provide; and, going further, it declared that the same traditional redemption clause in all private contracts, such, for example, as railroad and other corporation bonds, was contrary to public policy and therefore invalid.

(snip)

When by the Inflation Amendment the dollar was cut loose from gold it did not immediately fall. That was because, in spite of everything, it was the best piece of money in the whole world. Well then, when the dollar did not fall headlong of its own weight the government began to club it down, and the club it used to beat it with was gold. In the President's words the procedure was like this: "I am authorizing the Reconstruction Finance Corporation to buy newly mined gold in the United States at prices to be determined from time to time after consultation with the Secretary of the Treasury and the President. Whenever necessary to the end in view we shall also buy or sell gold in the world market. My aim in taking this step is to establish and maintain continuous control. This is a policy and not an expedient."

[djf]

The same feudal ideas run through all their jurisprudence, and constantly remind us of the distinction between the Prince and the subject. No such ideas obtain here; at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects (unless the African slaves among us may be so called) and have none to govern but themselves; the citizens of America are equal as fellow citizens, and as joint tenants in the sovereignty.

United States Supreme Court
2 Dall 419
decided 1793

[GeronL]

No mention of suicide bombers, Islam or self-aware suicidal airliners?

[jeffc]

The current state of the FBI today is so that George Washington and Thomas Jefferson would be considered extremists and enemies of the government.

[dsc]

How come nobody ever says “enemies of a *bad* government?”

When the government scorns the constitution, who are the bad guys? Its enemies, or its friends?

[ronnie raygun]

This is a case of the employee dictating to the employer. I am sick and tired of hearing these agency heads and politicians mouthing off, THEY WORK FOR US AND WE NEED TO PUT THINGS BACK INTO PERSPECTIVE, GO NEWT

[EGPWS]

Believe In A Return To The Gold Standard?

Amen!

Oops, am I still allowed to say that word?

[Joe Boucher]

Yeah,
And is that the same F.B.I. that over the years has let innocents go to jail for decades to cover for their murderer?
Or how about framing others?
Or how about looking the other way when a sitting president breaks the law?
The F.B.I. in many many ways is garbage.

[Diogenesis]

So when the FBI protected Whitey Bulger for decades
THAT is a “good” thing,
but conservatives, who want security for the
United States of America are a danger?

The Entire FBI/DOJ is now reprehensibly odious.
Justice no longer means anything in America
unless you are CONNECTED to Obama, or are a ‘black’,
or terrorist, or Marxist or Communist
or a murderer-helper against the Constitution, like Holder.

[LibLieSlayer]

Hello FBI... I am an extremist I guess... I support the Gold Standard. Did you guys spend all of the Gold in Fort Knox yet? Hey nappytano... FU... hey holder.. FU... have you guys at Just-us canceled the First Amendment too?

LLS

[BfloGuy]

They understand very well that there is much less need of government’s “services” and fewer opportunities for intimidation if the citizens own the money instead of the government.

[MamaTexan]

These extremists, sometimes known as "sovereign citizens," believe they can live outside any type of government authority

In the United States of America the people have retained the sovereignty in their own hands: they have in each state distributed the government, or administrative authority of the state, into two distinct branches, internal, and external; the former of these, they have confided, with some few exceptions, to the state government; the latter to the federal government.

Since the union of the sovereignty with the government, constitutes a state of absolute power, or tyranny, over the people, every attempt to effect such an union is treason against the sovereignty, in the actors; and every extension of the administrative authority beyond its just constitutional limits, is absolutely an act of usurpation in the government, of that sovereignty, which the people have reserved to themselves.
View of the Constitution of the United States

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Having the laws of government apply to the People is Constitutional treason.

At least according to the man who was appointed to the Supreme court by Madison.

[bert]

I think it is time to inject a little relevance into the thread.

The FBI is speaking of the J Orlin Grabbe’s of this world, if there are any left.

They founded a cyber nation with a cyber bank and a cyber currency the Rand that was gold based. The cyber nation had no geographical location. It was in the cloud. It could not be taxed or regulated by any government because it was no where and certainly not under the purvue of the FBI.

Alas, it all fell apart and mr Grabbe died at an early age. His thoughts, and he was brilliant, linger and are feared by the FBI