This is parasite thinking ... not much beyond their next meal.
Do they honestly believe that other families won’t stalk, hunt and kill parasites, for their own survival? You don’t ignore the rabid dog that bites your neighbor, you hunt the dog down and take it out; so it doesn’t bite your family next.
The families you talk about will be facing military trained people, not street thugs, so a band of 16 ex-military folks would be a handful for untrained people, is, I think, the point OP was making.
This is the problem with the thought process of urban survivalists.
So, you’ve stockpiled your food, and you of course also have enough weapons to protect yourself. Heck, you might have enough that when what is essentially an ARMY of people who don’t have food have assembled to come take you out, you can defend your “country”. Which means you are pretty powerful army.
Now, however, you are running out of food. And you have the power to take out an army against you. Will your family starve, now that you have run out of food?
Or, will you use all the force you have, force strong enough to repel an ARMY of invaders, to take the food of the guy next door? Yes, unless he is even more powerful. You won’t let your family die out of altruism.
But if he can fend you off, then HE was the more powerful, and if he runs out he’ll take you out.
Someone is going to have more weapons and power than you, unless you are the top dog. If you are the top dog, you will rule the world taking out those below you. If not, you will be taken out.
The only way this doesn’t come to a tragic end is if, at some point, you form a treaty with others, a kind of “nation”, where you all mutually defend yourselves. And then you need to mutually ensure your survival, meaning you need some way for people who run out of food to get from those who still have it, to keep factions from defecting and attacking.
Essentially, long-term survival will require the reconstruction of society. You need a government, you need people who are living well enough they aren’t motivated to lash out, and you need power distributed enough that no one person or a small group can take out the group.
Of course, you better pray that the military has prepared successfully, because you have NO CHANCE if the army is starving. It’s going to take you out, and you don’t have tanks, artillary, or close air support.
Wilderness survival is the only way individuals can make it. You find an out-of-the-way place, secure the perimeter, but mostly just STAY HIDDEN. Nobody knows where you are, or what goodies await them, and they can’t waste their time searching for you, not knowing there’s a reason to do so. They will go to where the groups of people are.
So, while I could build up my house to be energy independent, and put a stockpile in my basement, if I was serious about this stuff, my real survival gear would be in a nondescript cabin in the woods out in the middle of nowhere. My plan would be to have enough food and water to make it a month while I assessed whether things were collapsing, and then have gas to drive to my final destination.
Lets list all the flaws in the Parasite Plan:
First of all: It is vastly easier to keep something than to take it away.
Are these parasites going to go from house to house searching for who has food? Each time running the risk of dying the process? How long do think theyll last doing that?
They think theyre badasses wait to they run into a posse of badasses who dont take too kindly to murder and theft sometimes its not a good idea to end up being an example to others.
Some preppers grow their own so much for your grand plan killing off those that would grow you food
Or are you keep them alive and steal from them every harvest? Yeah, I think that would work
maybe
. let me guess
ONCE!
Others will stash way their food presenting the same problem to these parasites in waiting.
Theres one thing that is always a societal constant Criminals and thugs are generally on the lower rungs of the IQ scale.
If this is their idea of prepping, the combined IQ of a group these geniuses wouldnt add up to a decent hockey score.
As exemplified by this type of SHTF plan.