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To: BuckeyeTexan
"Whether or the the BNA recognizes Obama and Dunham’s marriage is irrelevant. What matters is U.S. citizenship law, which according to Minor requires two U.S. citizen parents. Obama can be a U.S. citizen through Dunham and stateless through Senior but still not be a natural-born U.S. citizen. But I think we need a SCOTUS to verify that."

I agree. Even if some legal technicality (sham marriage et al) were to render any British/dual citizenship issues moot, a Natural Born Citizen is one born on US soil to a matched set of American citizen parents, naturally. That type of citizen cannot possibly be anything but Natural Born. Minor vs Happersett stated such simply and eloquently. Obama's father, if he's telling the truth about his parentage, was a straight-up foreigner. In that case, he cannot possibly qualify as NBC.

Hope everyone's seatbelts are fastened, because if this development becomes worthy of enough public attention that it achieves what electronic engineers refer to as "breakdown, or avalanche voltage" the transistor that is the media will have no option but to report it loudly, endlessly, and ruthlessly except for that annoying part about their virtually universal complicity.

494 posted on 01/21/2012 3:44:02 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome ("Obama" Eligibility: Don't let 'em (continue to) get away with it.)
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495 posted on 01/21/2012 3:58:56 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

“That type of citizen cannot possibly be anything but Natural Born. Minor vs Happersett stated such simply and eloquently”

It did not and I don’t understand why people here keep claiming it did.


513 posted on 01/21/2012 6:33:40 AM PST by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; Spaulding; BuckeyeTexan; Danae; LucyT; GregNH; edge919
“Even if some legal technicality (sham marriage et al) were to render any British/dual citizenship issues moot, a Natural Born Citizen is one born on US soil to a matched set of American citizen parents, naturally.”

Let's say Stanley Ann was legally married to BNO Sr. but had an affair with Frank Marshall Davis and put Davis on the BC. Would Barry be an NBC?

IMO, no because the legality of the marriage governs the legal paternity of the child of the marriage for citizenship in the US and UK. Barry would be a dual citizen US and UK subject even though his biological father and the father on the BC was US citizen Frank Marshall Davis!

In the Minor case the Court only distinguished between NBC’s and children of aliens. then the Court said maybe some of the children of aliens might be citizens, though clearly were NOT NBC, IMO.

But SCOTUS in Minor was talking exclusively of NBCs and alien children established by legal marriage to an alien father, IMO. SCOTUS in Minor was NOT explicitly considering as aliens the children of unmarried US citizen mothers, nor foundlings who might be children of aliens.

"Born in the country to parents who are citizens" COULD be ruled by this SCOTUS to include children of single US citizen mothers despite the plural "citizens," IMO, because such children are clearly not legally the children of aliens or foreigners and have US citizenship but both blood and soil. We just won't know until there is a ruling.

545 posted on 01/21/2012 7:57:53 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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