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Job Killer: Obama Admin Hands Big Air Force Contract to Brazil (video)
PJ Tatler ^ | 1/19/12 | fox news

Posted on 01/19/2012 3:40:19 PM PST by Nachum

Fox does a piece on how the bid for this defense contract went to a Brazilian company.

(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...


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1 posted on 01/19/2012 3:40:24 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum
obama disney, Obama visits Disney
2 posted on 01/19/2012 3:42:56 PM PST by FrankR (When you vote based on race...race is all you get.)
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To: Nachum

I hope the union members are happy!


3 posted on 01/19/2012 3:45:07 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Nachum

I don’t remember Barry bowing to the President of Brazil so I must have missed it.


4 posted on 01/19/2012 3:48:29 PM PST by DManA
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To: Nachum

Wouldn’t giving a government contract to another country be the same as a treaty agreement? Wouldn’t senate approval be needed? Are republicans stupid, weak or in on the deal?


5 posted on 01/19/2012 3:50:12 PM PST by Terry Mross (AN)
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To: Nachum

How many months did he have to “think” about this one?


6 posted on 01/19/2012 3:51:41 PM PST by Leep (Paul/Ventura 2016)
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To: Nachum

I don’t want my guys flying their crappy kites.

We use American weapons.

Americans Fight to Win.

Buy American!


7 posted on 01/19/2012 3:52:55 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Nachum

Obama gave Brazil a $2 billion dollar loan guarantee for off-shore drilling in waters half again as deep as permits in the Gulf that he was rejection based on depth.

Then we found out Soros had just made investments in that Brazilian concern.

Now this. Wonder how much Soros has in the Brazilian aircraft company.

Once again, we’ll be losing a lot of employees with specialized manufacturing know-how.

This guy is destroying us step by calculated step.

If we had a Congress, it would step in and put an end to this. We don’t.


8 posted on 01/19/2012 3:53:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Listen up RNC. If we wind up with Mitt Romney, you're not getting my vote in November.)
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To: Terry Mross

Yes


9 posted on 01/19/2012 3:53:56 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Terry Mross

Are republicans stupid, weak or in on the deal?

Yes, yes, and I wouldn’t bet against it.


10 posted on 01/19/2012 3:56:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Listen up RNC. If we wind up with Mitt Romney, you're not getting my vote in November.)
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To: Nachum
The big, big question I see:

What the heck did Hawker Beechcraft (HBC) do to get kicked out?

- That action threw out the American company and guaranteed a foreign country product win.

- That action also effectively made this a sole-source competition.

Both of those are huge no-nos in military contracting. There is NO way they would take an action like this without some really, really bad activity having occurred. HBC as filed suit over the matter. It will be interesting to see what happens next.

If the suit is quietly dropped (as friends have told me it may be) it will be a pretty clear admission that something ‘funny’ went on and HBC would just as soon not have it come out into the light of day.

11 posted on 01/19/2012 4:02:18 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: Nachum

Ahmadinejad was in Venezuela, Nicaragua, Ecuador and Cuba last week. So, does this contract of Hussein’s help Iran or the US?


12 posted on 01/19/2012 4:02:18 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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“I hope the union members are happy!”

I’m sure Newt should have another field day with this one.


13 posted on 01/19/2012 4:12:04 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Nachum

Yep!
He Hates America and has hired a like minded staff, especially hostile to Lockheed and Boeing.


14 posted on 01/19/2012 4:14:45 PM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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Actually, given our withdrawal from both Iraq and Afghanistan the purchase of these aircraft makes no sense and is a waste of money in an era of tight military budgets.

We have hundreds of North American OV-10 Broncos in storage at Davis Monthan Airforce Base in Tucson, Az.

OV-10 Broncos were designed for the COIN/FAC mission in very primitive airstrips and they are better at the mission than either the Beech or the Super T.

Broncos are ugly, unsexy aircraft just like the Fairchild A-10 Warthog but they also share the same redundancy in engines and control surfaces and protective armor which allows both the A-10 and the OV-10 to take a lot of abuse and still bring the pilot and plane home.

We could put as many Broncos into service as we would purchase Super Ts very quickly for very little money.

Boeing could set up a remanufacture and upgrade line to overhaul and modernize our fleet of Broncos for a fraction of the cost of buying new Super T’

Broncos also have a huge cargo bay and payload capacity that can transport and land 6 special forces soldiers or resupply a team in the field with weapons and ammo. The Super T simply can't land out in the boonies like a Bronco can to insert or extract troops or supply large payloads of ammo or gear.

The Bronco is not quite a helicopter but it can land and take off in some pretty bad places if it needs to.

The Super T is a fine aircraft and so is the Beech AT-6, but they don't have the survivability of the Bronco nor can they work out of the kind of rough fields and dirt roads that the Bronco was designed to operate out of.

15 posted on 01/19/2012 4:25:22 PM PST by rdcbn
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The OV-10 bronco had swing axle landing gear, which allows it to land on strips that would have given a professional motocross-er nausea.


16 posted on 01/19/2012 4:30:10 PM PST by usmcobra (Happiness is a belt fed weapon.)
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To: Nachum
Job Killer?

How is that?

Go to Hawker Beech's website: they are in the process of opening their third manufacturing facility in Mexico while they're laying Kansans off in Witchita.

17 posted on 01/19/2012 4:40:09 PM PST by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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The President had nothing to do with the award of this contract. The US has treaties with all sorts of countries that it will treat offers from their corporations as if they were US companies. These countries pledge the same. The US sells a lot more military goods to them than it buys. So if we renege on our treaty obligations and only award to US companies we have shot ourselves in the foot.


18 posted on 01/19/2012 4:54:17 PM PST by rcofdayton
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To: usmcobra
The Bronco is an awesome plane.

I am surprised they have not taken it out of mothballs for this mission.

It is a battle proven aircraft that can carry most of the air to ground weapons in the inventory and lots of them, it can deliver over 3000 lbs of cargo to troops in the field, fit 6 or more soldiers into the cargo bay and extract them in an emergency. Try that with a Super T.

With over 2000 hp it really performs and it can run on gasoline and other fuels if Jet A is not around.

Test pilot Bob Hoover considered it his favorite aircraft to fly due to power, maneuverability and visibility and he flew pretty much every thing we had

19 posted on 01/19/2012 4:55:33 PM PST by rdcbn
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It’s my understanding that Hawker Beech failed to meet the minimum requirements of the solicitation.

It is never a no-no to exclude a company, foreign or domestic that fails to meet the minimum requirements of the solicitation. Rather, it is a no-no to award to any company that so fails to meet those requirements.


20 posted on 01/19/2012 4:57:03 PM PST by rcofdayton
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