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Going to your link, I remebered reding that thread, back then. I also noticed that I had forgotten a most astute observational quip you offered: “... just naked arrogance trying to use science as a fig leaf.” Seems to apply on this thread quite appropriately for one or two posters.
Some musings on this subject, courtesy of Gagdad Bob's Christmas Day blog article:
... the Creator is a person. Thus, he has principles. But unlike leftists, his principles are not just convenient fig leaves to obscure or lend legitimacy to a tawdry snakedown operation.I don't know why people have such a problem with miracles. That they happen at all only tells me that "miraculous" events occur as effects of a non-local cause that is not "in" the same spacetime frame as its effects.
Remember, although the Jesus is "Word made flesh," this does not mean that the eternal Word was nowhere to be heard in this vale of ears prior to the Incarnation. Rather, we would say (with Augustine) that the Word and Wisdom of the Christic principle were (and are) always here, and couldn't not be here; again, where there is Truth there is God, and vice versa....
We would go so lo as to see that the affirmation of anything is the affirmation of God, and therefore the negation of "nothing" (nothing being the absurd affirmation of a blind nihilism that can affirm nothing at all, not even itself). Otherwise there is no firm ground for any of your flimsy affirmations.
If, as Eckhart suggests, God ex-ists (for us) because he under-stands, it means that the poor toolish trolls who don't understand these truths don't even properly exist. Or, alternatively, they only exist. And existence without Truth is.... well, first of all it's an absurdity, but more to the point, it is hell. Which is why they refuse to put us out of their misery. The bad word must be shared, for it is lonely at the bottom.
Had our friend a_perfect_lady not read the Holy Scriptures as "flatly" and "literally" as possible as if it were some kind of instruction manual or "user guide" perhaps she could have sensed that there, she was dealing, not with "information," but with divinely revealed Truth about the divinely created Great Hierarchy of Being GodManWorldSociety of which she, like all of us humans, is firmly a part and participant....
Happy New Year!!!