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In the end, despite vigorous attempts by Polis and Rep. Lofgren to explain why this was so problematic, the Committee basically just ignored the whole thing and rejected the amendment. End result: SOPA 2.0 contains a crazy scary clause that's going to make it crazy easy to cut off websites with no recourse whatsoever. And this part isn't just limited to payment providers/ad networks -- but to service providers, search engines and domain registrars/registries as well. Yes. Search engines. So you can send a notice to a search engine, and if they want to keep their immunity, they have to take the actions in either Section 102(c)(2) or 103(c)(2), which are basically all of the "cut 'em off, block 'em" remedies. That's crazy. This basically encourages search engines to disappear sites upon a single notice. It encourages domain registries to kill domains based on notices. With no recourse at all, because the providers have broad immunity.

It's this kind of insanity that should terrify people about this bill moving forward.

1 posted on 12/28/2011 4:37:08 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: Jim Robinson; John Robinson

Thoughts, gentlemen?


2 posted on 12/28/2011 4:40:09 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: JerseyHighlander

It seems like this bill has zero true support from leftists, rightists, libertarians, modern liberlas, paleo conservatives/stuanch conservatives, progressives, from absolutely noone. And if that is the case, whose trying to push this bill through and does it have any chance of getting past Congress, Obama and the Supreme Court ? Not that we can at all count on the latter two doing the right thing of course .


4 posted on 12/28/2011 5:00:54 PM PST by emax
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To: JerseyHighlander
Congress-criminals should recuse themselves from considering this bill.

It's such an obvious conflict-of-interest, "crafting" unconstitutional legislation to silence their opponents.

5 posted on 12/28/2011 5:01:06 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: JerseyHighlander; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ..
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How SOPA 2.0 Sneaks In A Really Dangerous Private Ability To Kill Any Website (including FR)

Article, then # 6 , # 7 .

8 posted on 12/28/2011 5:36:37 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Jim Robinson; John Robinson; JerseyHighlander
I notice a couple of posts on this thread addressed to Jim and/or John. I've posted to them on other threads about this issue. I sent Jim a FReepmail:Strangely, I've gotten no response. Can't imagine why.

FWIW, I've contacted both of my Senators and my Rep on this. We need to be yelling and screaming about this!

13 posted on 12/28/2011 6:20:43 PM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: JerseyHighlander

This means a rise in blog and opinion sites that will be hosted outside of the US, using non-US domains and run by people who must keep their real names private.

It also means the rise of non-US alternative DNS providers.

It means more Land of the USED TO BE Free.


15 posted on 12/28/2011 6:31:07 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: ShadowAce

Hi Shadow, might want to check this out, looks to get interesting.


17 posted on 12/28/2011 8:29:48 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: JerseyHighlander; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; ...

18 posted on 12/29/2011 3:31:49 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: JerseyHighlander

bump


20 posted on 12/29/2011 8:56:55 AM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: JerseyHighlander

One more totalitarian move by leftists... it’s getting scary out there...


21 posted on 12/29/2011 9:27:33 AM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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