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Ron Paul Under Fire for Praising Accused Traitor
canadafreepress.com ^ | 12/26/2011 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 12/26/2011 2:06:21 PM PST by TBBT

Fox News is the latest news organization to pick up on the revelation, first reported by AIM, that Ron Paul had praised WikiLeaks source Bradley Manning as a hero and patriot. Directly referring to WikiLeaks and Army soldier Bradley Manning being held in detention, Paul said, “Should he be locked up in prison or should we see him as a political hero? Maybe he is a true patriot—who reveals what’s going on in government.” The comment drew strong applause from Paul supporters.

Video of the event, officially posted by Ron Paul’s Campaign for Liberty organization, also shows the Republican presidential candidate, now rising or perhaps leading in the polls in Iowa, attacking the CIA and its treatment of terrorists.

Paul “let his mask of semi-respectability fall when he praised Bradley Manning, accused traitor,” wrote Washington Post “Right Turn” blogger Jennifer Rubin.

A conservative view of Manning, who had been an Army intelligence analyst in Iraq, was expressed in strong language by columnist Deroy Murdock. He said Manning “should be court-martialed for espionage and treason.” He added, “If convicted, he should be placed against a wall and executed by firing squad” He said the same goes for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, if he is extradited to stand trial here.

Manning, a homosexual Army soldier with “gender identity” problems, has just undergone a preliminary hearing which could lead to a court-martial, where evidence was produced showing his collaboration with Assange and WikiLeaks. The charges against Manning include aiding the enemy in violation of Article 104 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. However, the prosecution team has announced that it is not seeking the death penalty.

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


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To: gargoyle

Much obliged, thanks.

U.S.A.


21 posted on 12/26/2011 2:46:19 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Oh, more people are paying attention, alright. But not in a good way.

Ron Paul would poll higher at DU than FR, if random proper polling was done of the members of both sites.


22 posted on 12/26/2011 2:47:06 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Dunno, what was Paul’s statement, and what was the context?

What? Didn't you even bother to read the excerpt (let alone the whole article)?

Unbelievable. You've practically hijacked this thread, and now you want me to summarize the article and the background story for you, because you haven't the slightest clue what this is all about?

Get off the phone, ya big dope!

23 posted on 12/26/2011 2:48:36 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ejonesie22
...In the end, you can vote for your candidate and I'll vote for mine. And I'll have no regrets.
24 posted on 12/26/2011 2:49:05 PM PST by gargoyle (...a well informed public and a well regulated militia...)
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To: TBBT

I agree with the premise but.... I’m going with chop that little bastuhd up into tiny pieces or throw him solitary for the rest of his life and play nothing but early 90’s heavy metal music like Twisted Sister 24 hours a day. Not loudly, mind you, but at a low level and it just never ends.


25 posted on 12/26/2011 2:52:45 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Windflier

I’ve seen James Carville and others on the left do the politics of personal destruction enough I recognize a deliberate coordinated smear job a mile away.

And the exact purpose.

It’s not about Manning. This is about Saul Alinsky. Perhaps even Mitt Romney.

I do notice he seems to be the only one, these sorts of mud-fests miraculously never seem to touch.

Maybe it’s the amazing protective powers of magic underwear?

Couldn’t be, that he’s in cahoots or anything.


26 posted on 12/26/2011 2:53:47 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Ron Paul would poll higher at DU than FR, if random proper polling was done of the members of both sites.

Ron Paul's views on foreign relations are outright leftist. It's one thing to criticize the military welfare we lavish on our allies, and quite another to criticize us for defending our interests against those of our enemies. What Ron Paul does consistently is say that our enemies are the good guys and we are the bad guys. That has traditionally been the leftist perspective. In some respects, Ron Paul resembles Lyndon LaRouche. I don't understand why the guy doesn't just join the Democratic Party.

27 posted on 12/26/2011 2:56:27 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I’ve seen James Carville and others on the left do the politics of personal destruction enough I recognize a deliberate coordinated smear job a mile away.

You didn't answer the question. Do you, or do you not agree with Ron Paul's statement about Bradley Manning?

It's not a "coordinated smear job" if it's true.

28 posted on 12/26/2011 2:57:32 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

(sigh)

When did we start reading the posted article?

Is this something new? Just a minute...


29 posted on 12/26/2011 2:58:46 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

LOL


30 posted on 12/26/2011 2:59:18 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I really haven’t been following that story closely, could be way off base.

You're going from Ron Paul thread to Ron Paul thread demanding to know what candidates his detractors support, and you can't be bothered to find out why most freepers call him a kook?

There is a very good reason so many of us want him to go away. Do the research and find out why the guy doesn't belong on the stage with Republicans.

He's never gonna get the party nomination...he'll never become president...so the sooner he quits hijacking the legitimate conservative agenda, the better.

31 posted on 12/26/2011 3:00:30 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If you read the article posted in this thread (follow the link), you will find a link to the Ron Paul video. You can get it directly from the horses mouth.


32 posted on 12/26/2011 3:03:13 PM PST by TBBT
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To: Windflier

OK I read what was in, the text posted anyway.

I saw Paul answering a question with a question. I did not see praise. It was a meaningful question which presented skepticism.

Bordering on waffling. What I did not read was praise. He was asking whether Manning should be praised.

Certainly that could offend, but I didn’t actually interpret the quoted (question, mostly) to be a statement of praise.

I don’t think that’s actually what that quote says.


33 posted on 12/26/2011 3:03:27 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Ron Paul has got this idea that the government (including the military) ought to have no secrets. Meaning that Manning was a hero for daring to divulge these secrets at the risk of losing his personal freedom. That Paul is the only major candidate in either major party that holds this view gives some idea of how deeply strange this particular position is. How is a denial of the need to preserve defense and diplomatic secrets compatible with running for the title of commander-in-chief?


34 posted on 12/26/2011 3:08:16 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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Gotta admit though, Paul could certainly have been a bit more critical of leaking secrets.

That’s the problem, when our side starts re-gifting our best technology, blurs that line a bit.

As kids we understood discipline should be consistent.


35 posted on 12/26/2011 3:09:25 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: Zhang Fei

Yeah that’s a problem.

Has he backed away from any of that?


36 posted on 12/26/2011 3:10:18 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: TBBT

Not sticking up for Paul, but it seems that some of the other candidates have recently spoken in favor of greater traitors(Obama, and Pelosi).


37 posted on 12/26/2011 3:15:36 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You should check my posting record, it may be even more fun than yours. I quit counting at 26 posts just today defending Ron Paul. However, you do seem to be scattered about a little. Just in the last 24 hours we see these posts from you, including one where you say Paul is in la-la land without using his name:

• I’d vote for Gingrich in a second.
Absolutely.

• Trump is a force. We are doing exactly the wrong thing, by rejecting his voice.

SANTORUM 2012

• I supported GWB. He did a good job. He’s a nice guy, and a patriot. He did not plan 9-11, and yes anyone who believes Bush, our government or “the Jooz” did, is simply straying way into la-la land.

• If Palin had entered this race, none of this would be happening right now.

I still strongly believe she should in fact run.

• I’m still more for Gingrich right now.

• Go Newt. My first choice at this point is Santorum, though Gingrich is a whole lot more likely to win.


Whew! You do get around FRiend!

I’m with Gingrich myself. So we agree sometimes. Except for when you are for Santorum. :)


38 posted on 12/26/2011 3:17:00 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

FYI, Paul does not favor tariffs on Chinese goods, and thinks the US is a bigger currency manipulator than China is, despite the fact that US runs a $500b deficit with the rest of the world, $300b of which is with China:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/11/ron-paul-aide-he-does-not-support-the-china-currency-bill/


As to former Gov. Mitt Romney’s (R-MA) promise, if elected, to issue an executive order declaring that China manipulates its currency and bring a case against them at the WTO, Benton said that Paul would act differently. “Congressman Paul would have us withdraw from the WTO, so I am sure you can understand how he would be very, very negative about a president trying to go to the WTO to stoke tariffs.” He added, ”Tariffs would be turned around to be a tax on the American people.”

But the Congressman isn’t entirely deaf to concerns that China is manipulating its currency. “Yes, China does manipulate its currency, and that’s a bad thing,” Benton said. “But we should stop manipulating our own currency and fix our own regulatory problems so we can compete.” He added, “Then we’ll have a lot more moral high ground to criticize them and do it from a position of friendship rather than going to international trade bodies.”



39 posted on 12/26/2011 3:20:57 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Santorum I’m throwing in with just to rabble-rouse about trade policy.

If he actually wins a primary, I’ll have to pick a lane. Right now my practical candidate is Gingrich.

Long ago I was quite inspired by Gingrich. I watched as he was deliberately taken down by what can only be called a Saul Alinsky modeled attack by democrats. I also watched the GOP throw him over the side, when they should have rallied to his defense.

I have yet, to see the GOP realize the stupidity and error, of doing that. They still haven’t stopped being that way.

It’s infuriating.

As a result, I have a gut reflex now to automatically stick up for any Republican who is being ganged up on with what appears to be those tactics which brought down Gingrich.

Maybe misguided, but there it is.


40 posted on 12/26/2011 3:22:15 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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