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To: BroJoeK
Then you were reading pro-Confederate propaganda, not real history. Progressive Republicans and Democrats began to reform the United States about 100 years ago, with the income tax, direct election of Senators, Federal Reserve, and many other Federal-power-enhancing actions.

Oh, please! Everything that contradicts your worldview is bogus I suppose. One of those pro-Confederates, I guess, must be James McPherson (and if you don't know who he is without Google, you should just be observing threads like this rather than commenting.) who is the one who quoted the Harvard Professor that I quoted earlier in this thread. And that other Ivy professor I referred to must be another pro-Confederate.

You need to understand that I am not pro-Confedracy. I am pro-Framers. You wail about the Federal Reserve which initially issued notes that were redeemable in gold but were not legal tender but seem to overlook "Honest Abe's" issue of Greenbacks which were not redeemable for anything but were legal tender. It certainly is true that there have been many additional Federal Power Grabs since Lincoln, but even you would have to admit that he started it, and he did so in a big and violent way.

ML/NJ

153 posted on 12/29/2011 7:07:39 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
ml/nj: "You need to understand that I am not pro-Confedracy. I am pro-Framers."

Not true. You are pro-Confederacy and anti-Framers.

ml/nj: "It certainly is true that there have been many additional Federal Power Grabs since Lincoln, but even you would have to admit that he started it, and he did so in a big and violent way."

What Lincoln did as emergency measures during time of war ended when the war was over.

What Progressive Liberal Democrats, strongly supported by Southerners, began to do 100 years ago was use some of the Federal government's emergency war-time actions during peace-time.

Republican Lincoln is not to blame for the actions of Southern supported Progressive Democrats 50 years after Lincoln's death.

155 posted on 12/29/2011 7:26:34 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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