Posted on 11/23/2011 8:38:58 AM PST by se99tp
It is clear that the United States and Russia are on collision course at the shores of Syria. Russian websites (and here)linked to the military intelligence informs that Kremlin decided to confront NATO forces. Three Russian warships had entered territorial waters near Tartus. It was built-in 1971 as an operational support for the Soviet strategic objective in the Southern Theater. It is the only Russian naval military base abroad with probably 50 military personnel. Moreover the Russian military naval base is in Sevastopol was granted from the Ukraine parliament de facto extrateritorial jurisdiction beyond 2017.
Russian sources in the Ministry of Defense denied in interview for Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper that any Kremlin’s military ship crossed Syrian sea border.
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Syria ping.
Gog and Magog?
Very shallow thinking.
Russia is the #1 oil producer in the world. More than Saudi Arabia. They pump over 10 million barrels per day, about 11% of the world’s daily supply.
There is no one to replace that. Everyone else is flat out maxed.
If Russia wants behavior changes from ANYONE, all they have to do is close their spigot 1/2. That will double the price of oil (yielding the same revenue for themselves) and global destruction to everyone else.
They have no need to confront NATO. They can just cut off NATO’s fuel supply.
So why then they sent their warships to Syria? Just for sightseeing trip?
They were trawling nets behind them.
but if they do that they halve their income.
Can they afford to operate with only half the usual nut?
So true. Russia is not going to go to war with NATO or anybody else. They are the champions of sabre rattling. Thats about it.
When Russia decided to cut off LNG supplies to Belorussia and inderectly to Poland it had surplus. At the moment Russia has budget deficit. If one wants to check this data it has to ignore Russia Today, Rian or other Pravda and consult independent opinions, for instance, by Andriei Ilarionov. Cutting LNG or the oil suppllies off may sound very simple but it is also serious business and legal problem. Even Putin cannot push any button, as Mr Owen assumes, to do it. In this situation such move seems to be very unlikely. Especially because Russia have just opened a new pipeline on the Baltic seabed in cooperation with the Western companies. Such move could threaten the bond trust. Even Kremlin would not do it. However the confrontation over Syria is something else. It is just a reminder of a new/old demarcation line in the West. And possibly another propagadistic victory for Kremlin if the US administration will allow for it. But Russians won’t use the oil or LNG as a political weapon against the West. Kremlin worked too long to convince/lure that Gazprom is another Conoco-Philips or Shell company on the market. At least at the moment they will not use it for their political purposes.
The “confrontation” does not have to mean “military”. And in fact in this article it does not mean. In Pristina Russian have just threatened/put pressure and won what they wanted. This strategy maybe used again. After all Soviets almost always threatened verbally (at some point Krushchev only with his shoe) during Cold War (if one forgets proxy wars). But the West was seeking peaceful solutions. Until president, Magnus Ronald Reagan appeared.
I think you have a pretty good handle on Russia. The natural gas pipeline is probably their biggest weapon. They can threaten to cut off Europe.
Oil is about the only thing Russia has going for it besides wheat and since the wheat crop failed last year they didn’t export any. It all had to be kept for domestic use. Russia has no infrastructure. Most people do not realize that in effect Russia is really a third world country. My brother in law is with the US State dept and has travelled to Russia extensively. He says when you get 50 miles outside Moscow its carts and oxen.
You also have a good source of information. Russia never developed any technology or produced any product after 1991. No even watch or T shirt. Nothing. Russian economy is based totally on the export of oil resources. That is why their Gazprom stategy is de fact the state foreign policy. Anything other is hot air. Russian nomenklatura including with siloviki group controls it. It is like another state. Sometimes a question what matters more Kremlin or Gazprom seems to be a reasonable.
Yes, you can find in Russian press photo of their “highways” that are possible to be used only during the dry season. When it rains such highways turn to a pile of mud. There is also a problem of Russia as a mega trash for anything one can imagine from rusty ships to very dangerous biological substances. But noone seems to care for that. From Lenin onwards the nomenclatura did not care for Russia. They always had money on their mind even when they threatened with their missiles or were selling weapons to any possible terrorist organization, so-called right or left. For them it was no difference. They were just rich class in the communism system. It did not change. Today everything is about money, their personal money. This is what G-m is.
Not really, half the output at double the price leaves them in the cat bird seat.
Regards,
GtG
I apologize for answering only now. I am not sure how it happened that I did not notice your comment.
I was thinking that positioning of Russian forces around that area may look like preparations for the final battle. By the positioning I mean extending “agreeement with Ukraine” to stay that is to reinforce and rebuild the Russian naval base. It is also interesting that Russians are in Tartu, I think it won’t be mistake if we say that Russian army also has its presence in Syria. So yes I believe that one can interpret this events as a preparations for the biblical scenario. I have to admit that I am not an expert but rather student of biblical prophecy. All the best to you and happy Thanksgiving. b
Also Happy Thanksgiving to everyone on this page. b
I apologize for answering only now. I am not sure how it happened that I did not notice your comment.
I was thinking that positioning of the Russian forces around that area may look like preparations for the final battle. By the positioning I mean prolonging of “the agreeement with Ukraine” to keep military presence there. That is, in fact, to reinforce and rebuild the Russian naval base in Sevastopol. It is also interesting that Russians are in Tartu. I think it won’t be mistake if we say that the Russian army also has its presence in Syria. So yes I believe that one can interpret this events as a preparations for the biblical scenario. I have to admit that I am not an expert but rather student of biblical prophecy. All the best to you and happy Thanksgiving. b
Also Happy Thanksgiving to everyone on this page. b
See my post #50 at the following link
Watch the internet forums and conspiracy theorists go wild if the Russian aircraft carrier Kuznetsov and escort deploy into the Mediterranean?
Aircraft Carrier to exercise from December
The Kuznetsov Battle Group conducts regular deployments lasting a few months every couple of years. The last time it deployed to the Mediterranean was in 2009.
I suspect it is because Boy Assad is about to step it up some (think Haditha) and the Russkies are there to fend off any intervention by the West.
If they cut their oil extraction flow rate in half, the global price will double.
They lose not a penny.
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