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To: Morgana

the vatican is marxist

and anti-capitalist.


3 posted on 11/06/2011 7:14:38 PM PST by ken21
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To: ken21

Actually the Vatican is opposed to Marxism and embraces responsible free markets.


5 posted on 11/06/2011 7:19:50 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: ken21

Pope’s encyclical on Marxism explains why it is an evil philosophy and antithetical to Catholic Theology==the main reason (and there are lots besides being godless) is that they believe in “the end justifies the means”. In other words, you can kill a few people if it helps make the world a “better” place (according to the Marxist Masters).

Christians have to treat every single person with dignity and respect and it is never justified to use human beings as just a means to an end. Can’t use them like an object-—for selfish lust, or whatever. It removes human dignity.

They have acknowledged Capitalism is great if the people are moral, but if people are immoral, it can be extremely evil. Capitalism isn’t good or bad—just the people using the system. So, Capitalism is good if the people using it are good. That really works with most any system, though==even a Philosopher King.

I believe that I have read articles which have stated in the Catholic Press that Capitalism has led to the most wealth and freedom which is really noted by the amount of religious freedom which was so great in America. So they are noticing which system works best.....subsidiarity is a basic tenant of theirs, after all, but the Church has been infiltrated by Marxists/homosexuals, so you really have to read around those few radicals.

That latest article was written by one of there radicals.


34 posted on 11/06/2011 8:14:36 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: ken21
the vatican is marxist and anti-capitalist

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44 posted on 11/06/2011 9:06:33 PM PST by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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