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Does Vatican Realize Its About To Step Into A Socialistic Hornet's Nest?
http://www.webcommentary.com/php/ShowArticle.php?id=meekinsf&date=111026 ^ | 11/6/2011 | Frederick Meekins

Posted on 11/06/2011 7:07:21 PM PST by Morgana

Speaking on a Vatican proposal to restructure world finance, a Cardinal declared, "We should not be afraid to propose ideas even if they might destabilize pre-existing balances of power that prevail over the weakest."

And does this include the position enjoyed by the Vatican as well?

Or is this yet another example of the "don't do as I do, do as I say" mentality that prevails among globalist elites?

Before calling for the redistribution of global wealth, shouldn't an institution calling for such divest itself of its ostentatious finery that, despite having a certain beauty, wasn't necessarily part of the founder's original business plan when operating in the field?

Before lecturing the rest of us how we need a goodly portion of what we have taken away in the name of the downtrodden, how about telling the downtrodden to exercise a little control over themselves by refraining from having so many children that they can't afford?

Isn't that the greater act of selfishness, going through with one's own carnal enjoyment despite knowing the that the life of the resultant progeny will be likely destitution?

Shouldn't one of the world's foremost moral authorities instead be calling for more independent creation of wealth rather than the centralized bureaucratic redistribution of such resources?

The Vatican insists such reforms are required in order to make the world economy more responsive to democracy.

So what is going to protect Vatican assets when the enemies of all forms of Christianity vote to confiscate that institution's vast and historically varied holdings?

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TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: catholic; partisanmediashill; plannedparenthood; prolife; religion; romancatholicism; vatican
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To: edpc

You are making the argument that the Vatican should be treated as a sovereign state. This means that discussions as to the origin of the Catholic church, is probably the most crucial starting point to this discussion.

I want to be sure that we are, actually, in agreement with how the Church began, before pursuing the discussion further.

Now, please, answer the question. When did the Catholic church begin, in your estimation.


61 posted on 11/07/2011 12:07:58 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi
You are making the argument that the Vatican should be treated as a sovereign state.

Yes, probably because it is.

62 posted on 11/07/2011 12:15:08 PM PST by edpc (My silence IS an answer)
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To: edpc

Ok, so tell me. When did this sovereign state begin? That’s a crucial point to your argument.


63 posted on 11/07/2011 12:27:20 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi
When the Catholic Church and the sovereign city state of the Vatican were formed are two entirely different questions. Neither of them are crucial or relevant to what was originally stated.

I'm bored with the tediousness and moving on.

64 posted on 11/07/2011 12:42:43 PM PST by edpc (My silence IS an answer)
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To: edpc

Oh.

So you then concede that the Vatican and the Church isn’t really the same as all the other sovereign states.

Thanks!


65 posted on 11/07/2011 12:50:43 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi

I’m not entirely sure how you could possibly get there from that, but you’re welcome.....for whatever.


66 posted on 11/07/2011 1:16:51 PM PST by edpc (My silence IS an answer)
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To: edpc

I’m amused that your interest sudden drops off, but you seem plenty willing to smear other people.

it’s not exactly a hard question, either.


67 posted on 11/07/2011 1:23:29 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi
A smear would require that I state something untrue about someone's character. Nothing like that happened. This person caused their own embarrassed with a foolish claim, then added to the problem by tossing out a degree.

I wouldn't call 2 days and multiple comments "sudden." However, everything seems to fit nicely into whatever pseudo-intellectual trap you think you've constructed with what you say are easy, but nevertheless, irrelevant questions.

Glad to have entertained you. It's now past 4:30, which means quittin' time from the day's work and this exercise in futility.

68 posted on 11/07/2011 1:41:18 PM PST by edpc (My silence IS an answer)
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To: edpc; BenKenobi

BenKenobi,

edpc’s commente are the usual ones we can expect from the ignorant set. The very fact that he thinks the Vatican bureaucracy operates the same as any other shows he doesn’t even know what millions of others know. I knew it would only take one simple question to expose him. They are always so predictable.


69 posted on 11/07/2011 4:36:26 PM PST by vladimir998
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