March 1, 2011 Amended: Utah in-state tuition for non-citizens .........."The House did amend the bill to require undocumented students, their parents or guardian to pay state income taxes for three years as a condition of obtaining in-state tuition. The time period matches the amount of years a student must attend a Utah high school (and graduate) to be eligible for the benefit.
Wimmer said that's not an unreasonable expectation. "All we're asking is for a little personal responsibility," he said. "How could that be wrong?"
Rep. Rebecca Chavez-Houck, D-Salt Lake, said legislators could be treading on equal protection laws.
"It almost smacks of being a poll or special tax," she said.
As for HB191 itself, which ultimately passed 44-28, Rep. Kay McIff, R-Richfield, invoked Abraham Lincoln and Brown v. Board of Education Supreme Court ruling in arguing against it. He said it would discourage Latinos, whether citizens or not, from going to college.
"If we narrow the schoolhouse doors in any way, we go against our higher duty," he said.
Majority Assistant Whip Ronda Rudd Menlove, R-Garland, said everyone is frustrated over the federal government's inaction on illegal immigration. But "we're going to take out our frustration with a broken system
and punish 650 students."..
Oct 6, 2011 Interviewing Rick Perry On Illegal Immigration [10 Points]
This policy makes sense, of course, given the constraints states face in regards to illegal immigration. A dozen states have similar policies.
Oh, in before the anti-Perry kill them illegals troll squad.
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No Thanks Anita. We’ll go with our conservative options.
How can they become productive citizens as this purports if they are not citizens? That argument alone makes it a form of dream act. It is like rewarding frequent flier miles to the thief who used tickets belonging to someone else.
No. 1, why teach in Spanish and accomodate non-English speaking interlopers? Why not make English the Official Language in Texas, requiring NO PRINTING IN SPANISH of an State Documents, no Non-English text books, no Non-English signage of any kind produced by the State?
THEN, we'll believe this drivel.
How any real American can support this is beyond me. Damn illegal-lovers.
“Critics say its a policy Texans dont support. But it was overwhelmingly passed by the state legislature in 2001 with just five dissenting votes out of the 181 members in both houses. If that isnt a majority, and a bipartisan one at that, I dont know what is.”
2001?????????????
Nice try to distort the issue. Yes, Americans as a whole were more receptive of illegals and amnesty back then (2001), because the tagline was that they were coming her to survive and for a better life, and that they were actively assimilating into American culture, not the other away around. In 2001, there really wasn’t up uproar.
Then around 2004/2005, the illegals started getting bold. They no longer wanted to concentrate on assimiliation. They DEMANDED rights. They started singing the National Anthem in Spanish and protesting in large numbers in majors cities with the Mexican flag. When people started to see that, that’s when the whole issue changed to no Amnesty.
Tancredo’s Opinion Column from August sums up the Majority view now (if it wasn’t the majority view, Perry’s numbers wouldn’t have tanked)
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61076.html
HORSE SH*T! I have kids in college and one was roomed in the dorms with one of those DREAM ACT illegals. Talk about a free ride. You do NOT want me to get started on this soap box. NO YOU DO NOT! There is not one Texan I know of that supports this crap.
A 2010 Texas Tribune Poll found that 77% of Texans OPPOSE in-state tuition for illegals.
It doesn’t “work” for Texas. It’s being crammed down our throats.
Gov. Perry will NEVER rationalize away this issue to the satisfaction of conservatives. So long as you - and him - keep defending this blatant catering to illegal entry, his campaign is going to stay in the single digits.
It is terrible policy, and it is a form of amnesty. All that can be said for Perry on this one is that a veto would have been utterly futile and the feds aren’t doing their job. Everyone of the these “scholars” should be deported back to their countries of origin. They have received enough stolen goods and services from the citizens of the US and Texas.
I have defended Perry on other threads and would vote for him, but this policy can only be defended by a corrupt form of sentimentality.
If it was put forth to be voted on by the CITIZENS of Texas, it would show that indeed the majority of us are against it. The legislature didn't ask us ... they went around us and passed it.
Perry supporters, like Perry himself desire to give Illegals that come here from Columbia to sell drugs a subsidized price on educating their kids. Much better than offering such to a Marine Corps combat veteran from Kentucky who wants to send his kids to a Texas university.
Perry and his sycophants will not remain unchallenged. His position and their position is what it is.
I still hate it for the USA. And I won't vote for any politician who thinks any kind of incentive for illegal aliens at all is OK.
Its that simple.
In fact he is outspokenly against the federal DREAM act.
“Perrys in-state tuition Works for Texas (and Utah..)”
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Tell that to some Texas kid who has worked his azz off in his uber competitive suburban high school.. and graduates in
the top 20%... only to be rejected by UT Austin in place of some illegal alien!
Perry is looking sharp!