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To: Confab; My hearts in London - Everett; Colofornian; ejonesie22; greyfoxx39; reaganaut
I have a little more time and will focus on one gross distortion from your cited 'source'

If the Father, Son, & Holy Ghost are one person, why even have three named? Why not just God? Period.

this is a classical misrepresentation of the doctrine of the Trinity - but a very common one made by mormons on FR as well as other areas.

If this is the extent of your research confab - then I suggest that you hit the books again.

The doctrine states that within the Trinity there are three “persons” who are neither three Gods nor three parts of God, but coequally and coeternally God.

Here is a more detailed definition given by Berkhof:

A) There is in the Divine Being but one indivisible essence (ousia, essentia).
B) In this one Divine Being there are three Persons or individual subsistences, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
C) The whole undivided essence of God belongs equally to each of the three persons.
D) The subsistence and operation of the three persons in the divine Being is marked by a certain definite order.
E) There are certain personal attributes by which the three persons are distinguished.

Now confab if you are honest, you will recognize that the definition you used or cut/pasted is not the same as what I used. DU has no excuse in perpetuating the error once corrected. However to continue to present a grossly distorted and incorrect definition of the Trinity as THE definition of the Trinity is lying and dishonest.

mormons love to catch Christians in error on mormon doctrine - thus I have spent a considerable amount of time in their documents so that I can properly define their terms and doctrines.

You want to cast aspersions on the doctrine of the Trinity - then you better study and learn to present it as it is defined by Trinitarians - regardless of whether you believe it or not - and then construct your argument accordingly.

copy and past of reputed 'apologists' who have demonstrated their repeated lack of integrity not in presenting material as it is, but in a purposefully incorrect manner (strawman) that they can pull down.

I trust you will do a better job of researching your points in the before you present tripe by DU and reno as 'facts'.

278 posted on 10/30/2011 1:39:36 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Godzilla

“No member of the godhead dwells in us in the literal sense of the word, but all of them dwell in us figuratively to the extent that we are like them.”
(See Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith pg 275-76)

. ...”the Holy Ghost is now in a state of probation which, if he should perform in righteousness, he may pass through the same or a similar course of things that the Son has”
(Words of Joseph Smith, p, 245, capitalization and punctuation corrected)...

“the Holy Ghost is yet a spiritual body and waiting to take to himself a body as the Savior did, or as God did, or the Gods before them took bodies” (Words of Joseph Smith, p. 382, capitalization and punctuation corrected)

Source: The Holy Ghost, by Joseph Fielding McConkie and Robert L. Millet, p. 9, copyright © 1989 Bookcraft, Inc


279 posted on 10/30/2011 3:16:50 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Godzilla

Your definition of the Trinity is totally incomprehensible to me & I’m sure many others. Not three Gods, nor three parts of God but coequally & co-eternally God. What? Do you really think God would make it that confusing?

Please feel free to continue on your rant. Please however don’t ping me again. For the record, I would encourage those who didn’t watch the debates between “Godzilla the great” & Delphiuser to do a search on Delphiuser & look at those debates & decide for yourself who was truthful & who was not. To restate, I’m not taking sides here on the “Mormon” issue, but on the Trinity, Delphi took you to the woodshed. So did Reno232.

Flame away my brother.


280 posted on 10/30/2011 3:24:14 PM PDT by Confab
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To: Godzilla

bttt


284 posted on 10/30/2011 5:29:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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