Posted on 09/23/2011 6:54:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
THE TRUTH FOUND A VOICE IN RICK PERRY
FoxNews-Google GOP Primary Debate [September 22, 2011] Gov. Rick Perry: [snip] If you say that we should not educate children who have come into our state for no other reason than that they've been brought there, through no fault of their own, I don't think you have a heart. We need to be educating these children because they will become a drag on our society. I think that's what Texans wanted to do. Out of 181 members of the Texas legislature, when this issue came up -- only four dissenting votes. This was a state issue. Texas voted on it. And I still support it greatly. [end] Texas Gov. Rick Perry responding to a question by Chris Wallace
Gov. Rick Perry has stated (for years) that the U.S. border with Mexico must be sealed. He has requested assistance (many people on the ground and drones in the air for Intel he has studied how this is done in Israel). As Governor of Texas, he has been rebuked in person by the current president, who refuses his pleas for the Federal government to do its duty and provide the necessary means by which to seal our countrys international border with Mexico. The governors written requests go unheeded.
Texas spends hundreds of millions of dollars of state money to defend its border with Mexico. An elite Texas Ranger unit, put together by Perry, is working to hold the line on our border. Rick Perry has stated that fences do work in urban areas but are not effective, let alone feasible, along the 2000 mile Mexico - U.S. border (1200 miles in Texas alone). The Federal government ignores this problem, while at the same time blaming and punishing border governors when they try to protect their states. People in other states, without understanding the facts, blame border governors when this federally manufactured problem spreads into their states.
President Obama believes security is just fine on the border (better in fact than before he took office) and frankly, hes following past examples where foreigners are allowed to cross into the U.S., where those with work visas are allowed to slip into U.S. society without any earnest, federal or court action to prevent it, where states are not allowed to ask children their legal status before attending school, where healthcare is accessible to everyone and where federal social justice programs have been put into place, thus beginning the progressive process of teaching new generations that it is normal to be dependent on government largess. [funded by those more fortunate Americans]
Then, periodically, another couple of generations are proclaimed by the federal government to be in the U.S. legally, by magnanimously proclaiming, You can come out of the dark now and stay. [sign up here for your Democratic Party voter card]
Rick Perry, as president, wants to finally seal the border and stop the flow of illegal immigrants and drugs stop those vile cartels who traffic in human beings and drugs, and secure a dangerous, porous entry used by terrorists seeking to destroy America. The current administration is willfully enabling those who prefer border security remain as it is, those who characteristically (for self interest) want to avoid addressing and dealing with these problems.
Undeniably, Governor Perry is the GOP candidate most familiar with this issue and the problems associated with it. Texas has a long and rich history with Mexico. Mexico is the number one trading partner with America. Many U.S. citizens have Mexican ancestors who are proud Texans and Americans, many who have, are, and are willing to fight for America. Hispanics are the largest minority living in the United States. They have a high birth rate and are a major minority voting demographic. This didnt happen because Texas shares over 1200 miles of international border with Mexico. The current magnitude of the problem, along with the number of the illegals in Texas and the United States, has everything to do with historic and current Federal inaction.
The Federal government looks to the states and tells them to deal with it. So state governments and their citizens have to deal with crime and a fast growing, uneducated population that puts a huge strain on state and federal resources. The resulting fall out for state government is, youre damned if you do and "youre damned if you dont." Gov. Perry and the Texas Legislature have accepted the criticism for taking the damned if we do path because theyre dealing with it first hand and Texans understand that "we're damned if we don't." These children are here, their potential and future has been put on our watch -- it is a practical and human decision and as Rick Perry said, You dont have a heart if you dont.
In 2001 the Texas Legislature voted in an Act (signed by Gov. Rick Perry) allowing children brought to the U.S. illegally (basically stateless people) by their parents, who complete 3 years of high school in Texas (graduate and want to attend college) to apply for U.S. citizenship and pay instate tuition. Their anchor baby siblings have this right by virtue of the 14th Amendment (that gave citizenship to children of slaves slavery was abolished by the 13th Amendment). If the country wants to abolish anchor babies, a majority of states need to vote for a change to the U.S. Constitution. The Texas education program is called the Texas Dream Act. The Texas Dream Act is not the same as the rejected Federal Dream Act proposed by the U.S. Senate because that federal legislation in totality and reality was an immigration bill.
The purpose of the Texas Dream Act is to have successful, educated citizens contributing toward a strong economy -- not unemployed or underemployed school dropouts who place a huge drain on our system [and begin generational poverty in their communities]. As past Federal actions have repeatedly shown Texas, illegal immigrants most likely will be allowed to stay. So the smart thing to do is allow them to pay instate tuition and be contributing citizens versus benefits receiving citizens. Gov. Mitt Romney does not agree with this and in fact rejected this approach in Massachusetts.
The truth found a voice in Rick Perry. Gov. Perry has said and believes that Conservative Ascendancy is how we will bring America back from the brink. Besides getting Americans working again we need to show them the value of conservatism and how those values encourage and support strong families and a free country.
Last night former Gov. Mitt Romney sounded like a Snidley Whiplash-Simon Legree character, while Gov. Rick Perry was Dudley do right looking after Little Orphan Annie. How do you think Barack Obama will (or won't) play these sound bites in his re-election bid for 4 more years?
Mitt Romney wants the status quo, which continues to feed the pipeline of generational, programmed victims -- driving trapped and dependent people into the arms of the growing army of the Democratic fight for social justice Party. Rick Perry wants to change the status quo and bring more voters into freedom businesses owners, entrepreneurs eager to join the Republican Conservative Ascendancy Party no matter what their last name or color, or gender or faith. And the border must be sealed first in order to do this.
Do the math. Rush Limbaugh has. Rush, like Gov. Perry, wants everyone to succeed (not secede). Rush, like Rick Perry, knows were at the crossroads that will decided the future path of the United States (and the world). Will it be Perpetual Dependency or Conservative Ascendancy? Democratic Party leaders are herding us into warring camps hoping to take us on the road to socialism. The states must take back power from the Federal government and get this country back on the road to free market capitalism.
This isnt a Sound Bite issue.
Nice try Mitt.
It cheelrens especially when we are talking college. Doesn’t matter that they are 18-25 year olds. Cheelrens is meant to make you seem mean if you oppose it.
Disagree with Perry’s position: discount education for people who shouldn’t be here when you won’t give citizen out of staters the same consideration? Really?
What a crock...ship them back with their illegal parents.
And yes I am “mean” and proud to be so.
So is our Military if that’s how you see it.
Couple of issues. There is nothing in the law requiring people to "be working toward US citizenship." The law states the following:
(4) provides to the institution an affidavit stating that the individual will file an application to become a permanent resident at the earliest opportunity the individual is eligible to do so.
This is a sham that is not enforceable. The illegal alien may never become eligible. In the meantime they get in-state tuition and take the place of an American citizen/legal Texas resident who is qualified to attend the school, which is also subsidized by the taxpayer.
Re standing up under legal challenge, please take a look at an ongoing case filed in April 2010, Immigration Reform Coalition of Texas v. State of Texas (University of Houston). The lawsuit claims the state law violated the federal Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, which prohibits states from providing a postsecondary education benefit to an alien not lawfully present in the United States on the basis of residence unless any U.S. citizen or national is eligible for the same benefit.
Do you think sanctuary cities should be a state issue as well?
I was leaning toward Perry until last night. He really lost me with his immigration remarks. I am not going to be able to get past it and I think it put off a lot of folks. I don’t want to face that amnesty fight again that Bush put us through.
If the representatives of the state are so out of touch with the people, why are they in office?
Illegals should not be serving in our military. Illegals should not be here. Illegals should be deported. Illegals should be prohibited from ever gaining US citizenship. Anyone employing illegals should be prosecuted and given prison sentences. Any politician pandering to illegals should be removed from office. Now do you understand?
Perry isn't perfect. None of them are. In order to get perfect, we'd need a robot with founding documents software. BUT, if Perry goes down, that could leave us with a NE liberal named Romney. We've got to be careful not to jump out of the frying pan and into the fire.
All kids are where they are becasue of their parents. You are right on point. Why should invaders get special treatment?
See post #42.
H.B. No. 1403
AN ACT
relating to the eligibility of certain persons to qualify as residents of this state for purposes of higher education tuition or to pay tuition at the rate provided to residents of this state.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Section 54.051(m), Education Code, is amended to read as follows:
(m) Unless the student establishes residency as provided by Section 54.052(j) or 54.057, tuition [Tuition] for a student [students] who is a citizen [are citizens] of any country other than the United States of America is the same as the tuition required of other nonresident students.
SECTION 2. Section 54.052, Education Code, is amended by adding Subsection (j) to read as follows:
(j) Notwithstanding any other provision of this subchapter, an individual shall be classified as a Texas resident until the individual establishes a residence outside this state if the individual resided with the individual’s parent, guardian, or conservator while attending a public or private high school in this state and:
(1) graduated from a public or private high school or received the equivalent of a high school diploma in this state;
(2) resided in this state for at least three years as of the date the person graduated from high school or received the equivalent of a high school diploma;
(3) registers as an entering student in an institution of higher education not earlier than the 2001 fall semester; and
(4) provides to the institution an affidavit stating that the individual will file an application to become a permanent resident at the earliest opportunity the individual is eligible to do so.
“Get America working again”...at low paying jobs.
Here’s a link to the enrolled version of the bill.
>>>We are talking about high school graduates who have been in TX for 3 years and who are working towards citizenship.
We are talking about teenagers who have sucked at the Texas government trough through high school and who are working towards being registered Democrats and racist La Raza supporters.
They are illegal aliens whose parents have sneaked into this country. They broke our immigration laws and jumped ahead of legal immigrants for the benefits that the US provides. They should be arrested and then deported before we lose our country.
Nice try Juanita.
I don't follow. Why would we have to give the amnesty or change the employment laws just because they have a degree?
Why do states have to CONSTANTLY pay up, clean up and feel the fall out from Federal inaction? We didn't pay our state taxes to hire police in our cities and towns to be immigration cops (instead doing their usual jobs).
We PAY FEDERAL taxes for our government (most important duty the Federal government has) TO PROTECT and defend the country and its citizens. THE FEDS need to have their ears pinned back and told WE ARE NOT GOING TO do this for you any more.
(4) provides to the institution an affidavit stating that the individual will file an application to become a permanent resident at the earliest opportunity the individual is eligible to do so.
The illegal alien may never be eligible to apply and is under no compunction to do so. How is it going to be enforced? In the meantime, he/she gets in-state tuition. This is just another scam by the politicians to fool the people.
Why are we educating these people? Federal law says it is illegal for illegal aliens to work in this country and it is illegal for empoyers to hire them. They can't get a driver's license. And unlike what Perry said, they are ineligible for welfare benefits, "the Dole."
Most of the ones who were involved with this ARE out of office! The problem is the lobby and big money republican donors like Bob Perry of Perry homes Inc. who indirectly benefit greatly from illegal labor.
It takes at least 5 years for those from Mexico to obtain US citizenship. So I would assume that is what “working towards citizenship” means. And that is for legal aliens, not sure how long it would take children brought in illegally by their parents.
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