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Three Charts to Email to Your Right Wing Brother in Law
truth-out.org ^ | 8/29/2011 | Dave Johnson

Posted on 08/29/2011 2:48:46 PM PDT by ozarkgirl

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To: ozarkgirl
Why do you have to 'scramble' all the way back to Clinton's administration to refute this? The real dilemma is the spending and deficit increase from Bush to Obama, period!

Clinton was forced into a balanced/low-deficit budget by a REPUBLICAN CONGRESS! Nothing more.

Try forcing these idiots to look at the defict from say, 2007 when it was $160B and compare it to now, approaching $1.5 trillion and rising in the Obamacare outyears. We are on top of a sea of red ink and sinking - increasingly quickly. Clinton was Clinton - BJs and sex scandals and whoring. He was forced into whatever comparison record they're trotting out now. Don't get fooled by it.

This country has bought into an affirmative action impulse purchase, and we cannot wait until the store opens in November 2012 to 'exhange' this f@cking purchase!

41 posted on 08/29/2011 3:35:00 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ozarkgirl
Not only is your “friend” a liar, he is a shameless liar.

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/

42 posted on 08/29/2011 3:37:39 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I went to the site and now I need to take a shower.

I'm so sorry, I posted the whole thing (it didn't say I had to excerpt) in the hopes it would all come through. I, like you, do not really want to give this site hits.

43 posted on 08/29/2011 3:38:23 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Don't forget in 1995 Clinton produced a “Budget plan” that called for $200 billion deficits until 2000. It failed in the US Senate 99-0. Not even Democrats would vote for it.

The GOP Congress, not Clinton, balanced the budget. Clinton had not plan to ever balance the budget and was dragged kicking and screaming to the table by the GOP Congress.

44 posted on 08/29/2011 3:39:33 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: ozarkgirl

Average Growth Rates

All years 1776-2009

 $

%

Presidential Party

 

 

Federalist

 $         7,512,818

1.11%

Whig

 $        23,025,792

40.66%

Democrat-Republican

 $       (15,501,250)

0.07%

Democrat

 $ 2,365,959,484,414

23.88%

Republican

 $ 7,783,797,371,805

22.64%

Senate Party

 

 

Federalist

 $         7,512,818

1.11%

Whig

 $           326,156

13.99%

Democrat-Republican

 $        10,570,383

1.53%

Jackson Republican

 $       (73,947,011)

-27.97%

Democrat

 $ 5,206,071,954,221

55.64%

Republican

 $ 5,024,337,411,790

8.07%

House Party

 

 

Federalist

 $           978,571

1.08%

Anti-Federalists

 $         1,199,480

0.83%

Whig

 $        31,246,112

58.46%

Jeffersonian Republican

 $        15,905,150

2.44%

Jackson Republican

 $       (81,016,547)

-29.64%

Adams-Clay Republican

 $       (12,492,617)

-3.49%

Democrat

 $ 6,412,690,458,908

45.37%

Republican

 $ 3,827,278,257,467

7.85%

 


45 posted on 08/29/2011 3:40:51 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Gaffer

Well it was the Republican Vice President who declared “budgets deficits don’t matter”. At what point did the GOP have its “come to Jesus” moment regarding our debt? When they had to turn the Nations credit card over to the opposition? I will have no respect for the GOP until it owns up to its part in this mess we are in.


46 posted on 08/29/2011 3:41:57 PM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: colorado tanker

Shoot, I tried to post one of your charts, I guess Facebook doesn’t allow that because it wouldn’t post.

Great charts though!


47 posted on 08/29/2011 3:42:34 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: KDD
Both parties are to blame.

Bush and the last GOP Congress Deficit 2006. $169 billion

0 and the last Dem Congress Deficit 2010. $1.7 Trillion

If you cannot grasp the difference between those two numbers you are far too ignorant to be voting.

48 posted on 08/29/2011 3:42:50 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: KDD
Whoever got the seat when the music stopped in 08

Love the way you Democrat propaganda bots ignore the fact the Democrats took over Congress in Jan 2007. Funny how you all are so pathetically afraid to ever hold the Dems accountable for their actions

49 posted on 08/29/2011 3:45:14 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: ozarkgirl
Spending increased under Reagan too.

The reason is a Dem-controlled House in a time of war will attach every ragtag, corrupt social program to military spending.

They know they have the best chance to get it through then because a Repub President will NEVER short-change the military by vetoing the bill.

Dems are corrupt weasels.

50 posted on 08/29/2011 3:46:13 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: MNJohnnie

Cost of US wars since 9/11? At least $3.7 trillion dollars...all off budget. But the real reason for our debt is Social Security...right Lackey?


51 posted on 08/29/2011 3:49:36 PM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: KDD
I will have no respect for the GOP until it owns up to its part in this mess we are in

And we have no respect for a Democrat Party propaganda bot too stupid to realize the difference between $169 billion and $1.7 trillion in deficit spending. So when can we expect you Democrat party bots to hold your political leadership accountable?

Utterly hypocritical for you to posture as "Debt hawks" when you continually refuse to hold your Democrat Party leadership to account for it's actions

52 posted on 08/29/2011 3:50:03 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: the_Watchman

................Craig’s numbers show that the deficit under Bush jumped up immediately which probably was due to the war with Iraq..............................

We could also come up with a chart of expenditures of what now constitutes the Dept. of Homeland Security.

Do you remember all the unneeded crap that the states were receiving in 2002-04 gratis from the US government. Stuff that was given to them to combat any potential Muzzie threat?

I remember my small RI town got new harbor patrol boats and supplies free, on top of all the rest of the communications, police, fire, junk. Then, once there, the local towns/states had to support all this new junk with added personnel, police units, fire departments, communications, maintenance. So the junk formed a tri-fecta: The US spent money; forcing the states to spend future money; causing the counties and town to rachet up their budgets.

But, let’s have somebody individually chart Homeland Security expenditures, along with all those duplicated do-nothing personnel sitting in the airports in their fancy TSA uniforms.


53 posted on 08/29/2011 3:50:16 PM PDT by Noob1999
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To: KDD

Yeah...I know the arguments...the results of their captitulation to the liberal appeasement darkside pale in comparison to liberal largesse...there is no argument on this, regardless of how no-ball/backbone,lilly-livered,ass-licking,bed-wetting, cry-baby excuses and reasons you want to put it as an excuse for RINOs, they still pale in comparison.


54 posted on 08/29/2011 3:51:29 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: MNJohnnie

MNJohnnie

Mind Numbed Johnnie.

Don’t ask me to climb into the mud with your ignorant insulting ass.


55 posted on 08/29/2011 3:52:48 PM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: KDD

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/

Still waiting for you to deal in facts instead of just mindless chanting ignorant Democrat Party bot slogans. See we even put in pictures for you. Your little welded shut party bot mind will not have to deal with any big words or difficult topics.


56 posted on 08/29/2011 3:53:57 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: ozarkgirl

Amazingly I haven’t been unfriended yet. Poor liberal girl, she has no idea we’re talking about her - it was a friend of hers - a liberal male who made the comments about the cigarette tax - facts are such nasty little things.

I so want to post this url on her site but I will refrain. There are so many good facts and charts here, I like her, I just so want to make her understand.

How can a girl move to a liberal state and be so brainwashed? Same thing happened to my mother when she worked in a college in Oregon! She had a HUGE screaming fit when I told her I didn’t like John Kerry! “He’s a WAR HERO”, it went downhill from there.

Silly I guess to argue, just raises my blood pressure.


57 posted on 08/29/2011 3:54:09 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: ozarkgirl

There’s more horseshit in that missive than on my old grand aunt’s Wisconsin farm.


58 posted on 08/29/2011 3:54:09 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: KDD
Utterly hypocritical for you to posture as “Debt hawks” when you continually refuse to hold your Democrat Party leadership to account for it's actions.

$1.7 trillion vrs $169 billion. Even a welded shut Democrat Party bot mind like yours should be able to comprehend the difference between those 2 numbers.

59 posted on 08/29/2011 3:56:45 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: KDD

So what does January 2007 mean to you?

It seems like something rather decisive happened in this nations politics to lead to massive deficits that were previously declining and massive escalations in unemployment from 4.5 percent.

I think I know but I’m not sure you do.


60 posted on 08/29/2011 4:02:28 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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