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Governor Palin Retweets Article Rick Perry Almost Tripled Texas’ Total Debt
Conservative 4 Palin ^ | 08/05/2011 | Ian Lazaran

Posted on 08/05/2011 8:26:31 PM PDT by Rational Thought

Governor Palin Retweets Article from Whitney Pitcher and PA4Palin That Notes How Rick Perry Almost Tripled Texas’ Total Debt

This re-tweet from Governor Palin should pretty much put an end to the outrageous rumors that she’ll endorse Rick Perry. The great article from Whitney and PA4Palin re-tweeted by the Governor directly contrasts Governor Palin’s stellar record on debt and liabilities with the futile records of Mitt “peacetime” Romney and Rick Perry. If Palin is endorsing Perry, why is she re-tweeting an article that slams his inability to control what Governor Palin has described as the “foundation of destruction?”

It’s also noteworthy that the article that Palin re-tweeted pretty much calls for her to run for the presidency.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: cultofpalin; debt; iampalinhearmeroar; palin; perry; rickperry; sarahpalin; twitter
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To: lonestar

...and the vast majority of that those unpaid medical bills are billed back out to paying patients and/or covered by federal programs, not state programs.

I will grant you, the state run/owned (i.e. university) hospitals are definitely picked up by the state. Then that begs the question, why has Gov Perry failed to address the issue?

In San Antonio, you can go to university hospital, or the Brady-Green clinic (Bexar County), and they basically encourage you NOT to pay for treatment or drugs. They’ll say something like, “I have to give you a bill, but you just pay what you can - which could be zero - and then I’ll give you the meds.” They were shocked when I paid the entire amount.

Given the percentage of indians living in poverty, I suspect the per capita costs are high. The totals of course don’t compare.

You are talking about rural living; I’m talking about remote communities where there is insufficient space for septic systems (not sure how well those would work in Alaska anyway).

It is the state, like in Texas through ERCOT, that manages transmission lines and regulates municipalities providing services like sewage treatment and water. Smaller communities, even in Texas, depend on the state to engineer the infrastructure to put in services, tie into the grid, and ensure they are meeting requirements. If it were free market based, it either wouldn’t happen or the services would be cost-prohibitive (not endorsing, just stating).

My mom lives in rural Williamson County east of Georgetown. They are in an isolated sub-division/development along the river. Many of the houses have insufficient space for a septic system, especially under new Texas rules requiring a minimum of an acre. Also, being next to the river and arguably in the flood plain, the Texas enviro-wacko nazis almost certainly will object to any new septic systems along the river.

My own house in Castle Hills has a septic system that doesn’t meet current standards. I can’t replace it because of the new regs. My property is only .68 acres.

...back to the point though, Texas government has grown as compared to Texas government. We are comparing percentages. As I explained, Alaska has its own set of challenges complicating governance and adding significant costs (distance, travel). Texas has its own set of challenges (population density). The difference is that government debt in Texas grew 184% over previous government debt, while in Alaska it was reduced. Unless you are claiming George W. Bush, Ann Richards, Bill Clements, Mark White, and Bill Clements (1st term) woefully underfunded essential services in Texas, Perry has grown the state government SIGNIFICANTLY.


361 posted on 08/06/2011 10:19:16 PM PDT by TexasGunRunner (Sarah Palin will defeat BHO, and will be one of the best presidents of our lifetime.)
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To: hocndoc
Perry did not have line veto power that Alaska gives their Governor. The voters authorize borrowing. We’ve voted on the debt over and over. http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/02/28/2884195/texas-highway-borrowing-us-up.html

The problem with the Perry Cheerleaders is that on one hand they want to give Perry credit for the great shape Texas is in, and then on the other hand, they want to make excuses for him when something bad comes up, which is it?

You Perry supporters need to stick to one side of the fence or the other, either Perry is responsible for the financial shape Texas is in or he is not, which is it?
362 posted on 08/06/2011 11:16:21 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Tucker39

lol. very good!


363 posted on 08/07/2011 12:44:59 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: SoConPubbie

It’s both - the Governor can lead, set the agenda for special sessions, supervise the Executive Branch, and has some discretion about some funds. However, our Constitution gives most of the power to make laws to the Legislature and quite a bit to the voters.


364 posted on 08/07/2011 1:56:38 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
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To: TexasGunRunner

The debt is not like the US debt. It’s bonds that are voted on by the voters. Some of the debt is from student loans and are being paid off with the interest on the loans. The bulk is for roads.


365 posted on 08/07/2011 2:03:51 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
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To: heshtesh

Tnank you my man... the truth will set us ALL free!

LLS


366 posted on 08/07/2011 3:46:07 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (juan mccain certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: Finny

Amen brother!!!

LLS


367 posted on 08/07/2011 3:53:32 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (juan mccain certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: Finny
Wow, you will argue with a finanical dictionary definiton of "windfall profits tax". You lost that argument last year, and it is laughable that you are bringing it up again. Man are you ever a delusional puke.

I like Ms. Palin, and in fact she would be my second/third pick behind DeMint. However, it is really too bad that there are foam frothing at the mouth Freepers like you, because you and your ilk give her a bad name.

368 posted on 08/07/2011 5:44:01 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: Finny
Since you are reading challenged...again here is the Barron's defintion:

tax on profits that result from a sudden windfall to a particular company or industry.

If that is not enough here is a rundown of the legislation from the liberal (/s) Tax Foundation...

Tax Foundation write up on Alaskan Windfall Profit Tax

Try to focus on this point.... The tax rate would increase by .1 percent for every dollar per barrel when the price of oil goes above $35 per barrel after the companies' costs. Since the cost of producing a barrel of oil is about $15 per barrel, that means the tax rate escalator would kick in at when oil is about $50 per barrel.

Keep digging like you did last year. Good Freepers can spot Palin spin better than anyone else.

DeMint 2012, so don't try to fling mud that I am a Myth supporter like all other Palinites do when someone doesn't drink the koolaid.

369 posted on 08/07/2011 6:05:23 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: Spunky
He went behind his Legislature and constituants because he knew they were all against it. The Legislature was able to overturn the MANDATE though.

You're telling us that you can read minds and know motives? If you can, I can: perhaps the whole purpose was to make opting out easier for parents, per "Parents Rights" on the EO.
http://governor.state.tx.us/news/executive-order/3455/

The Legislature followed the demands of the Texas Medical Association over the years and made the opt in, opt out. Then, they made it every 2 years rather than lifetime. Then, every year and required the request to be made with a State form that held a "seal." There were seriously bureaucrats who maintained that the only way to get the paper with the seal was to go to Austin, find the right office, and request in person.

The EO instructed the man he appointed to make the form available over the Internet.

Parents’ Rights.The Department of State Health Services will, in order to protect the right of parents to be the final authority on their children’s health care, modify the current process in order to allow parents to submit a request for a conscientious objection affidavit form via the Internet while maintaining privacy safeguards under current law.

370 posted on 08/07/2011 6:49:38 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
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To: Spunky

You are wrong: Gardasil hasn’t been “know (sic)to have killed some girls.”

None of the deaths were confirmed to be due to the vaccine. In fact, the CDC, JAMA, and the very conservative(Bush-appointed and media-vilified for those conservative views) FDA panel that reviewed the VAERS in 2008 all confirm that there’s no causal relationship, only temporal. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaccines/hpv/gardasil.html

Association does not equal causation and the VAER reports hardly equal even association. They’re really bad examples of “reports.” The reports of deaths and injuries from Gardasil are poorly documented. The VAERS reports of deaths are especially poor evidence. One “death report” actually says the patient “may or may not have expired.”

Remember your statistics classes. With 33 million doses, there are bound to be deaths that coincide with the timing of the vaccine use. The teen death rate from all causes is 62 per 100,000 across the US. http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/acrossstates/Rankings.aspx?ind=25 Most of those are boys, but still: In 10 million girls, 30 deaths are not outside the rate for the age group. They are tragic, but consistent with life on this Earth.

More likely the girls who had severe reactions or death had other risk factors, due to the population presenting to clinics giving the vaccine: those who present with worries about STD’s, the newly sexually active and those entering college. The records show that many were given new scripts for birth control pills and other vaccines and meeds, according to the analyses in the medical literature. (Also, remember the silicon, SSRI, and the general vaccine scares that have been blown out of proportion through the years and later proven to be untrue.)

We are seeing cross-protection from other strains. http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/199/7/919/F2.expansion.html

The reports on the possible vaccine-related deaths are available for viewing at http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/index.html the VAERS site,(drop down to the table at the middle of the Page, option #3)using “HPV4” (This is the Merck vaccine), at Option#4, check “YES” at “life threatening” (or you could check “death”) and (top of page)”Sort by submission date.”


371 posted on 08/07/2011 7:12:11 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
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To: Finny

I liked your piece at #343.

On Perry, I try to leave myself some wiggle room by frequently posting he can win, “IF he runs well”, and in a campaign on the national stage that remains to be seen, but he can do it and knock Romney off. Maybe someone else can curb Romney, but Perry seems to have the best chance at the moment.

On Bachman/Palin, Michele Bachman is running a splendid campaign so far, and is all issues/Obama/solutions, all the time. She remains unthreatened by the media, and capably rises above their sniping with some ease. I like that.

Palin still seems a little defensive and uncomfortable except when things are peachy, and it’s too late for her to still be doing nothing that says she is even considering a run.


372 posted on 08/07/2011 7:13:03 AM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick. Perry/Rubio '12)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The real stars are the workhorses staying behind in DC, the Mike Lee and Paul Ryan, Jim Jordan types. These are the marvelous smart men who can make the right president look good regardless of their IQ, if they’re are smart enough to listen. Trump is awesome, but his narcisissm may be worse than Obama’s, making him intolerable.


373 posted on 08/07/2011 7:26:44 AM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick. Perry/Rubio '12)
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To: hocndoc
Thanks for all your information.

Let me ask you this though. What if Obama had signed an executive order saying everyone had to get a swine flu shot, but you could opt out? I personally think it is a way to get phamacuticals more money. Just like the Statin drugs. They came out with a study saying the lower you can get the LDL the better, so they started prescribing it to a LOT more people. Now the FDA is cautioning that the 80mg of Zocar can damage muscle. I believe that even smaller doses can do that. My husband has been on Statins and now he can barely get out of a chair, bed, etc. His doctor just keeps putting it off to other things.

374 posted on 08/07/2011 10:49:41 AM PDT by Spunky (“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abh)
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To: Spunky

We stop all statins for muscle aches, at least until we get liver functions. There doesn’t seem to be a connection between the statins and aches if the liver functions are normal or a little high. (Statins have great effects - my husband and I have normal cholesterols, but think about starting us for the protections from statins besides lowering cholesterol, including neurological effects and protection against inflammation.)

In fact, the Texas Legislature passed a Bill requiring all medical personnel to be vaccinated for several diseases unless they are allergic or have real medical contraindications. Hospitals must enforce the law. I opposed it.

However, I like most vaccines and believe that the reason the Medical Associations push them so hard is to save lives. Not money and certainly not to make more money for pharmaceutical companies.

In our family, last year everyone got a cough that lasted over a month, except my granddaughter and I. My husband’s cough would literally shake me nearly out of the bed. I’m convinced they had whooping cough, since I had just had my whooping cough booster with my tetanus booster and my grand daughter had had her boosters just a couple of years earlier.


375 posted on 08/07/2011 11:06:10 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
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To: catfish1957; All
Man are you ever a delusional puke.

There you go again! Folks, these Palin detractors have a weak hand when it comes to convincing you not to support Palin, so they have to resort to calling those who post info refuting one of their charges against Palin "delusional pukes" with "foam frothing at the mouth."

catfish has me chuckling when I read his words, "I like Ms. Palin." This guy has FOR YEARS been leveling the "oil windfall profits tax" charge against Palin on FR, and when enough posters start linking to INFORMED discussons showing that quite a lot of folks who can claim as much expertise as catfish or any of his sources, observe that calling it a "windfall profits tax" is misleading at best, downright deceitful at worst, he eventually slinks away as people start investigating FOR THEMSELVES the veracity of his claims.

But really, the cool thing about all of this, is that anyone reading this doesn't have to take my word for it, or catfish's word for it. Thanks to the internet, they can figure it out out for themselves. Aside from the links in my earlier post on this thread, find another link here that I haven't posted before on FR, and here's another good one -- the comments are more enlightening than the original article.

So far, links I've posted have been from 2008. Here is one from March of this year, penned by Palin, and note the first comment -- confirming what I've noticed in the hour or two today I've been skimming where "oil windfall profits tax" or variation thereof is used to describe ACES (Mother Jones, CNN, Huffington Post, Seattle Times, Democrats.com, and the list goes on and on). This is the kind of company catfish1957 has.

I'm still looking for another link I found a few weeks ago, a current discussion on the ACES and "windfall profits tax" propaganda spin by Palin detractors. It was really interesting in that in the comments, some folks brought up Lisa Murkowski's connection to all of this recent discussion. I should have added it to my "favorites" when I saw it! Oh well, live and learn -- I'll find it again, eventually, and when I do, I'll post the link here.

catfish's tactics of personal insults and gross misrepresentation of truth by way of propaganda verbiage like "oil windfall profits tax" speak volumes about him and his cause.

376 posted on 08/07/2011 12:32:25 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Finny
It's pukes like you that has made Freepers realize that there are better candidates like Jim DeMint who need to represent the conservative movement. You and your foam frothing Palinites are turning off more of us every day. In your little la la land, Sarah Palin is the absolute perfect conservative. She is a good one, but she is not perfect or the best our side can offer.

AS far as misleading, I quoted the definition, and provided the proof. It is your own fault you can't handle the truth. Keep digging your hole, and throwing insults. It just shows that you are more suited for du anyway.

377 posted on 08/07/2011 12:48:41 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: catfish1957; All
The tax rate would increase by .1 percent for every dollar per barrel when the price of oil goes above $35 per barrel after the companies' costs.

Proving my point: What you, CNN, Mother Jones, Seattle Times, and Huffington Post, to name a few, like to call an "oil windfall profits tax" isn't calculated on profits or on windfalls -- it's calculated on the going price of a barrel of oil. It is indexed to rise not at a set rate equal to rises in the price of oil, but at a higher relative rate the higher the price of oil gets, thus partaking of the "windfall" when oil prices rise.

Here's an interesting take I snipped from a discussion forum back in 2008:

There is a difference between a royalty rate and a windfall profits tax. Alaska OWNS the oil in its ground. By increasing the royalty rate as the market price of oil increases they are sharing in market gains.

Obama is proposing a windfall profits tax on aggregate levels of profit. Exxon has a profit rate of 10%. Google has a profit rate of 25%. Obama is suggesting that a special tax be placed on Exxon but not on Google.

Resource royalties and windfall profits are not the same kind of tax.

Another poster replies:
"I'm all for severance taxes on resources extracted from a jurisdiction, but it should be flat based on the value of the resource extracted (and the cost to the environment). What she proposes here is most certainly a profit tax.”

The first poster responds:
If you're a farm owner and you sell your wheat crop, should you be content to receive a base price for the wheat and allow the refiners and other downstream processors to capture all of the value locked into rising prices?

The oil belongs to the people of Alaska. The oil companies deploy capital and expertise to extract that oil. If particular oil companies can earn a higher rate of return than their competitors based on their unique management practices, then they have a solid case for capturing all of the realized gain. What case do they make for capturing all of the gain in the commodity price of oil?

A windfall profits tax kicks in after the cost of materials is already extracted from the sale price. Royalty payments are a cost of goods. Those goods, the oil, belong to the people of Alaska. They should benefit from the run-up in the price of oil to the same degree that the citizens of Norway, Britain, Canada, etc benefit from the increased price - that is, they should be capturing the value, instead of sending it to the oil company, which doesn't bring any value added contribution to the issue.

The above is food for thought for FReepers to graze on, and an example of the kinds of discussions you can find online.

catfish writes: DeMint 2012, so don't try to fling mud that I am a Myth supporter like all other Palinites do when someone doesn't drink the koolaid.

And there you go again! {^) You're lobbing gratuitous insults at folks who like Palin. Why is that? Could it be because your position is weak?

378 posted on 08/07/2011 1:01:11 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: RitaOK

Thanks for the civil and thoughtful response. :^)


379 posted on 08/07/2011 1:05:50 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: catfish1957; All
Keep digging your hole, and throwing insults. It just shows that you are more suited for du anyway.

What insults? In that one line, you just suggested I was more suitted for Democrat Underground, and I fully recognize that as the insult it was intended to be. Meanwhile, I have scrupulously avoided making personal insults against you here, as far as I can recall. If you can find one on any of my posts to you in this thread, please feel free to share it.

Fellow FReepers, BEHOLD! Yet more evidence that catfish's arguments to convince you not to support Palin are weaker than a kitten. He calls me a "puke," refers to me and my "foam-frothing Palinites," says that "in my little lala land, Sarah Palin is the absolute perfect conservative."

The truth? Nowhere will you ever find a post where I implied, let alone said, Palin was perfect; on the contrary, I have posted MANY times (though maybe not on this thread) that Palin isn't perfect, but she easily lives up to Reagan's prescribed 80 percent. Now, DeMint -- isn't he pretty much taken in by the global warming hoax? I may be wrong, but if I'm correct, that's a deal-breaker right there -- he's no better than Newt, nor is ANY REPUBLICAN who doesn't understand the hoax within the global warming carbon cap-and-trade approach. Allowing such "environmental" concerns to justify more government interference in the consumption and production of energy in America, is the antithesis of LIMITED GOVERNMENT.

A committment to limited government is what I like about Palin: she has a track record of cutting and reducing government, and furthermore, says that more of it needs to be done at the Federal level.

You quoted a definition of "windfall profits tax" and then provided proof that that's what ACES was? *sigh* This AGAIN? All over AGAIN? Your take is, to put it kindly, subjective -- as I have "proved" again and again, with links in other posts on this thread, such that readers don't have to take your or my word for it -- they can arrive at an informed conclusion on their own.

Those reading this who are on the fence with regard to Palin, remember that if you decide not to support her, guys like catfish are who'll you be throwing in with. He has LONG been a determined and dedicated Palin opponent, yet he is trying to portray himself as, merely, a DeMint supporter.

The truth will out -- the behavior of Palin's most vocal detractors speaks volumes.

380 posted on 08/07/2011 1:32:36 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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