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‘Where is the plan?’ Jay Carney says Obama’s 'Plan' is the best-known debt plan
Daily Caller ^ | 07/29/2011 | Matthew Boyle

Posted on 07/29/2011 11:43:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

White House press secretary Jay Carney said Thursday that President Obama’s debt ceiling plan is the best-known option at this point. There’s just one problem with that: No publicly available, detailed Obama plan exists.

“There is no plan that has been offered, certainly in the last several months, about which more detail is known or has been specified than the Obama-Boehner plan, okay, in terms of the cuts in domestic spending, both defense and non-defense discretionary; the savings coming out of entitlements programs, including Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security; the kind of tax reform that was envisioned and the mechanisms by which tax revenue would be a hard thing for Republicans to accept but was part of the deal — that would be $800 billion, that would be part of this proposal,” Carney said.

What Carney was referring to is the negotiations Obama and House Speaker John Boehner were conducting behind closed doors. No written plan ever came out of those meetings, and the two political leaders never reached an agreement. Boehner went on to develop his own plan.

After learning of Carney’s declaration of confidence in his boss’s plan, Senate Republicans struck back at Obama. In a web posting, the Senate GOP asked of Carney’s statement: “Where is the CBO score? Where is the text? Where is the plan?”

The Daily Caller reported Wednesday that Obama has been able to avoid making political enemies inside the Democratic Party by keeping his plans and proposals limited to negotiations behind closed doors. Not informing the public about specific plans or proposals he supports or opposes can help him minimize political damage.

Carney appears to confirm that sentiment. As for why Obama hasn’t been specific with what he supports and opposes, Carney said it’s politically smarter to remain vague.

“If you lay out a proposal that’s politically — by yourself that’s extremely politically hard for your party, whether you’re Republican or Democrat, it’s like putting a clay pigeon in the air,” Carney said. “It’s ensuring its defeat. And that’s — and maybe that’s a sad statement, perhaps, about how Washington works, but it’s an incredibly realistic statement about how Washington works.”

More confusion about what specifically White House officials are referring to when talking about Obama’s plan ensued later on Thursday. In a White House Twitter chat Thursday afternoon, Obama administration officials tweeted out a link to what they call the president’s debt ceiling plan. Instead of linking to the “Obama-Boehner” plan Carney referred to mere hours before, the link directs to an April 13 White House “Fiscal Responsibility” fact sheet. The fact sheet does not use the term “debt ceiling.”


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: debtceiling; debtlimit; debtplan; jaycarney; obama; partyofnoplan; shownalotofleg
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To: pallis
It is in a hermetically sealed mayonnaise jar, never before seen by human eyes, sealed by Funk and Wagnall’s and on their porch since...
21 posted on 07/29/2011 12:01:12 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: SeekAndFind

So Boehner and the Republicans should send a blank white sheet of paper over to the Senate and Odumbo and say Pass this Bill, “then you can see what’s in it.”


22 posted on 07/29/2011 12:03:49 PM PDT by jacob allen
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To: SeekAndFind

His plan is the new tax form:

Line 1: “How much did you make last year?”
Line 2: “Send it in.”


23 posted on 07/29/2011 12:04:53 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: SeekAndFind

Gollum stole the plan and lost it in a cavern deep under the Misty Mountains. He said it smelled real bad and he’s not going back in after it.


24 posted on 07/29/2011 12:07:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (No dark sarcasm in the press room ... Hey!, Barry!, leave them bills alone.)
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To: SeekAndFind
With apologies to Dr. Seuss:

Would you buy the budget plan
Cooked up by the Zero man?

I do not like your empty plan.
I do not like it, Zero man!

Would you like it with some Reid?
He can pass it, yes indeed!

I do not want it with some Reid.
Not even if I smoked some weed.

Would you, could you, in the House?
Or with some veggies from my spouse?

I do not want it in the House.
And I can't see around your spouse!

Would you take it with a tax
On jets or boats or midnight snacks?

I will not take it with a tax,
Just cut the spending, face the facts!

I do not like your worthless plan.
So stuff it in your Zero, man!

25 posted on 07/29/2011 12:11:50 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi tio es enfermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Satire from me (as was thought, not spoken by Carney):

zer0 will introduce a new bill today named Tax and Spend.

After having discussed and evaluated the problem with known tax cheats, zer0 began his campaign for Tax and Spend. I have the votes, and eighty percent of Americans want tax increases <--- (Actual statement from zer0). Having heard you my fellow Americans, I will spend your money once it gets to me. My slogan for reelection is .... The Buck is Mine, not Sarah's! Fear not America, for your money you get zer0. (Hearing cheers from the lamestream zer0 exits the podium)

26 posted on 07/29/2011 12:14:08 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Jay Carney says Obama’s 'Plan' is the best-known debt plan

Hey Carney: Spending us into bankruptcy is not an acceptable plan!

Take Back AMERICA!
FUBO GTFO 2012 !

27 posted on 07/29/2011 12:14:41 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Notary Sojac

LOL!


28 posted on 07/29/2011 12:20:17 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Notary Sojac

Nicely done.


29 posted on 07/29/2011 12:26:41 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: SeekAndFind
Where's the Fence?

Where's the money?

30 posted on 07/29/2011 12:28:10 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Darksheare

Yeah, everyone knows Obama’s plan:

1. Spend as much as he wants.

2. Tax and more taxes

3. No debt ceiling; spend forever to be in debt

4. Print mo money indefinitely ...who cares.

...Hannity is reporting that Obama now has a secret plan. LoL.


31 posted on 07/29/2011 12:29:38 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

His plan is to just print more money.


32 posted on 07/29/2011 12:32:46 PM PDT by zeebee
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To: Red Steel

LOL!
Secret Plan... shades of.. another loser Dem!


33 posted on 07/29/2011 12:34:18 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The emperor has no clothes.


34 posted on 07/29/2011 12:41:17 PM PDT by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / "...it is their duty, to throw off such government...")
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To: pallis
It’s the double secret plan, hidden way, way down the rabbit hole, where only Obama can go.

Hanging right next to his new clothes.

35 posted on 07/29/2011 12:41:53 PM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Clueless when they started...

“On his first full day in office, President Obama promised a “new era of transparency” for government.”

and even more clueless now...

“Carney said it’s politically smarter to remain vague. “

Kinda like “leading from behind” isn't it?

36 posted on 07/29/2011 12:42:41 PM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama has a very well known plan, and its name is Cloward-Piven.


37 posted on 07/29/2011 12:46:47 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: Nachum

Ping.


38 posted on 07/29/2011 12:48:13 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: SeekAndFind
As for why Obama hasn’t been specific with what he supports and opposes, Carney said it’s politically smarter to remain vague.

In other words, the vast majority of Americans would be against it, just like they were and are against Ubamacare.

39 posted on 07/29/2011 12:48:20 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: Tucker39

You’d have to get paid a LOT to come out and spew stuff like this! Well, on second thought maybe not so much - he’s a rat so not as hard for him.


40 posted on 07/29/2011 12:54:04 PM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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