 Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre visits a Labor Youth League rally on Utøya Island and hears their demand that Norway recognize a Palestinian state. Eskil Pedersen, the leader of the Youth League is second from left in the foreground. |
Posted on 07/24/2011 7:23:29 AM PDT by Libloather
Jew-hate exposed on socialist youth camp on eve of massacre
- We are tired of Israel.
This was the message from AUF leader Eskil Pedersen the very day before the massacre took place in Utøya in Norway. 85 of the Labor youth camp was massacred by a Norwegian Freemason templar.
The day before the massacre, AUF leader Pedersen invited the Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre to the camp. Støre in the very minister in Norway who recognized The Hamas, and held secret talk with the leadership in the Islamic terrorist organization.
This is what Pedersen is recorded saying to the Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet, on 21st of July. This was 48 hours before the tragedy took place.
“I acknowledge that economical boycott of Israel is a dramatic tool to use. But we are tired of Israel’s behavior. Large parts of the Word reacts towards Israel all the time, but Israel do not pay attention. Our advice to the Government of Norway is a signal, that we are tired of Israel” explains Pedersen.
When the right wing terrorist started to execute the labor party youth, Pedersen was the first to be taken into a boat, and guided into safety on mainland Norway.
Oh, no! A Christian youth camp that stresses loyalty to country with a political leaning. Sorry, until there's much more info on this, it sounds very much like the Boy/Girl Scouts of America or Boys/Girls State summer camps which is sponsored by the American Legion.
Exactly. Which is why I’ve never understood why the msm and the History Channel makes such a big whoop tee do about them.
Yes it did. And you found a pretty flimsy example of a Republican "youth camp" provided by a flaky broad from Orange County who sees white lights hovering around Barry Dunham. Sorry, I didn't find your evidence of right-wing youth camps compelling. The Tea Party Summer Camp was a better example, but it certainly doesn't compare to what was going on at this leftist madrassa in Norway (unless you believe the messages being taught are equally valid). Kind of like comparing the Boy Scouts to the children at the People's Temple Agricultural Project.
Does everything having to do with politics have to be at one extreme or another with you?
There are two sides in politics. The side that fights for the Truth (God's truth) and the side that fights against it. Yes, everything at its core is on one side or the other. Sometimes the political right is on the former (less and less it seems), while the political left is always, without exception, in the latter camp.
If you believe there's a middle ground, I'd like to hear it explained.
Besides you, in your post to me, who said anything about these camps being "an issue"?
You provided an example of a woman who claims to have been dragged to a camp she didn't approve of against her will. The "issue" was implied by your source.
Don't the Young Republicans have a right to have a summer camp?
Don't the Young Democrats have a right to have a summer camp?
Where did I mention restricting anyone's rights? What words did I use that even suggested I might be talking about restricting anyone's right?
That’s a good way to look at it but these rules are all the rage within all of the various facets of Leftism but codified in varying ways.
Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre visits a Labor Youth League rally on Utøya Island and hears their demand that Norway recognize a Palestinian state. Eskil Pedersen, the leader of the Youth League is second from left in the foreground. |
However, BBC materials and any legitimate news report featuring a Labour Party official (even if he had been wounded slightly) simply don't cut it.
I did count the number of people shown in those videos you provided. LESS THAN A COUPLE OF DOZEN. That stuff has been heavily edited.
What I get to watch on TV isn't.
Remember, this is just another bunch of killings to our "newsies" if not yours.
Nossir, me neither, I ain’t never had no trouble with NONE!
No trumpin’ brother.
Just followin’ the lead.
Full speed ahead!
would he lasted?
Oh, maybe 90 seconds..
I’ve gone to CBS ABC NBC - they either have no footage of interviews, or they have the same raw feed that came out of Norway and was shown in the clips I posted. There simply wasn’t that much available. “What I get to watch on TV isn’t.” Yeah, right - because you are watching the channels you listed? (You can’t even *watch* NPR - it’s National Public RADIO.)
I think you haven’t seen any “dusky maids,” and 32 year old campers. The vast majority of people at the camp were 800 KIDS. They weren’t skinny dipping and holding drunken orgies. The Norwegian police have said that one of the reason that he attacked the camp was because he wanted to punish the “indigenous Europeans” who have allowed the emigration. Your talk about “Bangla Desh and South India” is also a giveaway to your baloney - the immigrants to Norway are Somali and Pakistani.
You have absolutely NO proof that the camp was the way you portrayed it, only your say-so. You can’t show any evidence to support your interpretation because it simply isn’t true. What I want you to explain is why you think it’s so important for us to believe your lies about the camp. You sound like Breivik yourself.
Sounds like you were pretty “easy,” yourself - not to mention that your attitude now makes it sound like they were just so much meat to bang and dump. But I guess you believe that all those “lib chicks” had no feelings that you had any need to respect?
Or it could be just what it appears, and what the man himself claims it is: A long-conceived, carefully thought out, methodically executed plan to kill Liberals who he believes have polluted Norway, with the goal of starting a war against them.
What would it take for you to actually believe that such a thing could happen? Or do you just believe it is *impossible* for someone on the Right to do such a thing? If such a thing happens, it absolutely HAS to be a person from the Left - no matter what all the evidence says?
The primary feed on ABC has 8 "campers" and maybe 25 or 30 rescue personnel. The primary feed on CBS is a recut of the BBC video and showed 4 "campers".
Did I say "NPR" ~ when I meant "PBS" ~ they didn't have any news today, but i clicked through the 18 different public broadcasting affiliates yesterday and caught some of it ~ but that was MOSTLY videos of the bomb site.
A thought for you ~ a news helicopter managed to get out there to the island and they actually filmed this guy shooting people. Pretty dramatic stuff.
Out of that whole video the only thing I could find on the net was a still.
You didn’t answer my questions: What would it take for you to actually believe that such a thing could happen? Or do you just believe it is *impossible* for someone on the Right to do such a thing? If such a thing happens, it absolutely HAS to be a person from the Left - no matter what all the evidence says?
There is no correspondence of Norway's "Right" to the American conservative right.
Norway (and Europe) has far left international Socialists (communists or Marxists as you prefer), and not so far left National Socialists who are SOCIALISTS to the core, but will not be ruled by those outside or from outside their country. This terrorist is a member of this second group who are Nationalists and Socialists, but are nowhere near a conservative right.
Now that we have cleared up the misapplication of labels (a standard leftist tactic to control the discussion), we can rephrase the question properly, to wit:
Do I believe it is *impossible* for someone who is a National Socialist, to do such a thing?
No, I believe it is not *impossible*, and has occurred historically.
Do I think someone from the American conservative right could do such a thing?
It's possible but much less likely.
Generally, unprovoked mass killings point left while the American right usually requires previous unprovoked killing to retaliate for.
Pretty much the Norway evidence points to cunning National Socialism, and nowhere near modern Christianity or conservatism.
That leaves a big question in my mind about what is going on here ~ are the antisemites turning on each other, and if so is that bad?
Who initiated the Hindu Kush genocide that displaced those currently known as Gypsies into Europe?..... Muslim "warriors"
Who initiated the Armenian genocide?..... Muslims, again
Who genocided 66 million Russians and surrounding peoples?...... Lenin and Stalin, ultra left wingers
Who genocided six million Jews and an equal number of others?..... Hitler, a National Socialist left winger
Who genocided 100 million Chinese?.... Mao Ze Dung, ultra left winger
Who genocided two million Cambodians?...... Pol Pot, ultra left winger
Who genocided one million Vietnamese?..... Ho Chi Min, ultra left winger
And for the Bonus Question, Who genocided an estimated 100 million women and children world wide?..... Rachel Carson, an environmental leftist
Any information on genocides perpetrated by the conservative right will be appreciated as it appears this quiz is a little out of balance.
Yes, young, stupid and not thinking about other's feelings and consequences. The attitude has, however, changed. But that's the way it was.
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