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Gunwalker: Smoking Gun Email?
Pajamas Media ^ | July 13, 2011 | Patrick Richardson

Posted on 07/14/2011 2:41:15 PM PDT by Kaslin

An internal ATF email seems to support the assertion that Fast and Furious was a PR stunt for gun control.

PJM’s Bob Owens has long speculated that the primary reason for Operation Fast and Furious was to perpetuate the lie that 90 percent of illegal firearms in Mexico were from the United States.

Owens’ assertion was buoyed on Wednesday by internal ATF emails obtained by Townhall.com. One email reads:

Can you see if these guns were all purchased from the same FfL and at one time. We are looking at anecdotal cases to support a demand letter on long gun multiple sales. Thanks Mark R. Chait Assistant Director Field Operations.

This would seem to be a “smoking gun” for Owens’ assertion that this operation was never about crime and always about an “under the table” effort to institute the gun control Obama knew he could never push through Congress.

Additionally, Obama has just issued an executive order which requires gun dealers in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California to report multiple long gun (rifle or shotgun) purchases to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in order to combat illegal firearms trafficking along the Mexican border.

The National Rifle Association’s Institute for Legislative Action fired back at President Obama’s order. Chris Cox, executive director of the NRA-ILA, said they will be filing a lawsuit against the new order the first time ATF tries to enforce it. He noted that criminals generally don’t fill out forms:

$40 billion transnational criminal enterprises don’t fill out paperwork and are not deterred by paperwork violations. This is a blatant effort by the Obama administration and ATF to divert focus of Congress and the general public from their gross incompetence in the Fast and Furious scandal. This scheme will unjustly burden law-abiding retailers in border states. It will not affect drug cartels and it won’t prevent violence along our borders. ATF and the administration lack the statutory authority to do this and the NRA will file suit as soon as ATF sends the first demand letters.

Obama’s order is awash in hypocrisy per the details of the Gunwalker scandal. It was the ATF which ordered gun dealers to make multiple sales of military-style and .50 caliber sniper rifles to known and suspected straw purchasers in the Operation Fast and Furious debacle, in which more than 2,500 weapons were allowed to walk across the border by the ATF. The dealers were already reporting multiple long gun sales and the ATF told them to make the sales anyway.

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform who has been investigating the mess form the beginning, said the executive order was about politics:

This political maneuver seems designed to protect the careers of political appointees at the Justice Department and not public safety. It’s disconcerting that Justice Department officials who may have known about or tried to cover-up gunwalking in Operation Fast and Furious are continuing attempts to distract attention from clear wrongdoing. In Operation Fast and Furious, gun dealers didn’t need this regulation as they voluntarily provided ATF agents with information about suspected straw purchasers. In return for this voluntary cooperation, the Justice Department betrayed them by offering false assurances that they would closely monitor sales of weapons that dealers otherwise did not want to make.

Sen. Charles Grassley, (R-IA), ranking member on the Senate Judiciary Committee, was equally outraged by the executive order:

We’ve learned from our investigation of Fast and Furious that reporting multiple long gun sales would do nothing to stop the flow of firearms to known straw purchasers because many Federal Firearms Dealers are already voluntarily reporting suspicious transactions. In fact, in just the documents we’ve obtained, we are aware of 150 multiple long gun sales associated with the ATF’s Fast and Furious case, and despite the fact that nearly all of these sales were reported in real time by cooperating gun dealers, the ATF watched the guns be transported from known straw purchasers to third parties and then let the guns walk away, often across the border. This makes it pretty clear that the problem isn’t lack of burdensome reporting requirements. The administration’s continued overreach with regulations continues, and is a distraction from its reckless policy to allow guns to walk into Mexico.

Two U.S. law enforcement agents are dead because of this operation, and a reported 150 Mexican citizens are as well. Additionally, the guns are now showing up in U.S. crimes.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; cia; constitution; dea; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; ffgate; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; melson; obama; scandal
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1 posted on 07/14/2011 2:41:18 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

A PR stunt that killed people, and will continue killing people.

Bigger Than Watergate (BTW)


2 posted on 07/14/2011 2:44:46 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Kaslin

All of the gun dealers who were asked to participate, were reluctant and had to be assured the guns would be monitored and used for a “sting”. This whole thing backfired on Obama which is why he just signed a gun-grabbing exec. order. Dickwad.


3 posted on 07/14/2011 2:45:25 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Kaslin

Who do I call for my free Barret 50?


4 posted on 07/14/2011 2:46:09 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Deb

“This whole thing backfired on Obama which is why he just signed a gun-grabbing exec.”

Good point.


5 posted on 07/14/2011 2:48:39 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Kaslin

6 posted on 07/14/2011 2:51:34 PM PDT by daletoons (If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.)
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To: Kaslin
Bttt.

5.56mm

7 posted on 07/14/2011 2:57:56 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: samtheman

One thousand times bigger. No one was killed in Watergate


8 posted on 07/14/2011 3:00:53 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Deb

Dickwad my foot. Arrogant pos is more like it


9 posted on 07/14/2011 3:03:01 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
One thousand times bigger. No one was killed in Watergate.
Actually, you're being kind.

The difference between 1 person dying and 0 people dying isn't the difference of 1000 to 1. It's much, much greater than that.

And then when you consider that the number of people dead (now and in the future) from this program is much greater than 1...

Don't get me wrong. I'm not criticizing your post. Just building on it.

10 posted on 07/14/2011 3:09:52 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Kaslin
That's the final nail in the coffin for everyone in the ATF, now we just need an email exchange to Obama, to disable suicide minions.
11 posted on 07/14/2011 3:17:09 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; Prince of Space; ...

FOR REFERENCE:

12 posted on 07/14/2011 3:22:58 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: Kaslin

Here we go! Now that gun is really smoking.


13 posted on 07/14/2011 3:26:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: Kaslin
Over 1,400 ATF-walked guns are still “walking” around Mexico. At least another 200 “walked” into Honduras. When will the next one show up at a murder scene and where?

There is no possibility that this story will go away. The sad truth is that bodies are going to be dropping for some time to come with ATF-DoJ gun-walked guns.

14 posted on 07/14/2011 3:30:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: Kaslin

Since Obama was sworn in as President, do you feel safer?

Because of their policy to let guns walk, we are in more danger in our everyday lives. Because of what the Obama regime has done, the second amendment and secure borders are even more critical.


15 posted on 07/14/2011 3:34:10 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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To: Kaslin

Here’s the angle that will put people in jail:

The only effective way to track a firearm is by the serial number. Once the firearm is out of your hands, you have no way of determining the serial number until you physically get the gun *back* in your hands.

Other than recovering them from crime scenes, there is no way to get the firearms back in DOJ/ATFE hands. In other words, for Operation F&F to be successful, the criminal would have to commit a *SECOND* crime (ie, murder in addition to illegal possesion of a firearm), AND drop the firearm at the scene where it could be recovered.

It’s not just that some of the guns ended up in the cartels’ hadns. The DOJ/ATF let the guns walk with the full intention that the guns would be recovered AFTER being used in a crime. That makes anyone who approved the operation an accessory to those secondary crimes.


16 posted on 07/14/2011 3:41:57 PM PDT by Terabitten ("Don't retreat. RELOAD!!" -Sarah Palin)
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To: RedWhiteBlue

Impeach that arrogant pos


17 posted on 07/14/2011 3:49:58 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
Obama’s order is awash in hypocrisy per the details of the Gunwalker scandal. It was the ATF which ordered gun dealers to make multiple sales of military-style and .50 caliber sniper rifles to known and suspected straw purchasers in the Operation Fast and Furious debacle, in which more than 2,500 weapons were allowed to walk across the border by the ATF. The dealers were already reporting multiple long gun sales and the ATF told them to make the sales anyway.

Everything the 0bama administration does is deceitful and malicious.

18 posted on 07/14/2011 3:50:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: samtheman

I am not seeing it as criticism


19 posted on 07/14/2011 3:53:14 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: TigersEye

It should not go away


20 posted on 07/14/2011 3:57:21 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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