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Posted on 07/11/2011 6:42:30 AM PDT by flowerplough
Dear Bristol,
I so wish you and I could have this conversation on a long girls' night in. You’d get a babysitter for Tripp, I’d bring the popcorn, and we’d hang in our pajamas and watch Heathers. Afterwards, we’d paint each other’s toenails, and I’d tell you how great your chin looks. And then, when we were both feeling relaxed and expansive and had built some kind of trust, I'd tell you this:
I'm worried about you, girl. You say you're not accusing Levi of raping you, but the way you tell the story—he knew you didn't want to have sex, but did it to you anyhow when you were blackout drunk on wine coolers—sure sounds like rape to me.
I sense that you've probably had a lot of choices made for you in your life so far, and the last thing I want to do is box you into another corner. Everyone has the right to describe what we experience with our bodies in whatever language suits us. So if it feels right to you to call what Levi did to you "stealing your virginity," that's exactly what you should do. Personally, it makes me cringe a little bit, because it suggests your sexuality is an object which can be owned by someone other than you. But ultimately, it's your call.
So, let’s go with it: “stealing your virginity.” It sounds like you realize that having sex is an activity that you should be actively engaged in, not one that makes you want to vomit when you piece together what happened the next day. But what really worries me is that you might be thinking that declining to call it “sexual violence” will make the experience less painful for you. If that's what's going on, you're not alone...
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Although I do not know how willing Bristol Palin was, when having sex, but according to some feminists, a man cannot convince a woman to have sex without it being rape.
No excuse. Calling it rape would be a cowardly attempt to absolve her of responsibility. If this be rape, we’ve got our work cut out for us locking up teenage boys by the millions.
I’m not going to beat her up over it. After all, this sort of thing has happened once or twice before in the history of the world. What’s done is done and she could have chosen to abort but she didn’t and that shows that she has a bright future.
Having your way with a passed-out-drunk girl/woman is rape. If that’s what happened between Bristol and Levi, then Levi is a rapist.
She only had sex once?
Having your way with a passed-out-drunk girl/woman is rape. If that’s what happened between Bristol and Levi, then Levi is a rapist.
If Levi was drunk at the same time, was Bristol guilty of rape also?
However, what really frosts my cookies about the writer is that she's so willing, eager even, to tell someone else, someone who doesn't know her and hasn't asked her advice, exactly what she should say and do about a most personal experience.
Only a liberal could be quite so presumptuous and arrogant. Lord, save us from them!
Come on, be reasonable. If Levi had something to drink but was sober enough that could function sexually, he was the actor. He climbed on top of a semi-conscious or unconscious girl who had already made it clear she didn't want to have sex. Bristol didn't push him back, pull down his pants, and sit on him.
Yes, he's a rapist. If you use anything to restrain someone so that you can have sex with them when they don't want to have sex, it's rape, whether you're immobilizing them with rope, duct tape, alcohol, or the threat of killing them. Doesn't make any difference. Levi chose to use alcohol as the restraint.
Really?
Was that supposed to be a serious question?
Are you a defender of date rape in general, or just when it involves a Palin?
“Only a liberal could be quite so presumptuous and arrogant. Lord, save us from them!”
Fox News’ Brit Hume on Tiger Woods, January 2010: “He is said to be a Buddhist. I don’t think that faith offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith. My message to Tiger would, ‘Tiger, turn to the Christian faith and you can make a total recovery and be a great example to the world.”
I’m not a defender of date rape in general, nor just when it involves a Palin. I don’t blame Bristol for cashing in on her mom’s fame, and I very much admire Sarah Palin.
That being said, what I object to is a woman getting drunk and then crying rape when sex results. Unless Bristol was unaware that she was consuming alcohol,then she knew what could happen, and needs to take responsibility for her actions. I think that Bristol agrees with me on this, which is why she did NOT call it rape.
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