Posted on 06/30/2011 5:49:50 PM PDT by publius321
I took some time on this because I have heard this all before.
Venturer: “Talk of Secession is cheap.
Publius321: It isn’t cheap and I am certainly not campaigning for it. I am PREDICTING it because it could not be more obvious that Obama is instigating it. He is here to destroy this nation he has for his lifetime loathed.
Venturer: Nobody is going to secede over Obamacare.”
Publius321: Nobody said it was just that issue alone. If you read the column instead of just the title, you will see that the writer enumerates a litany that is only a fraction of the assaults that daily emanate from this administration.
Venturer: It IS a definite violation of the Constitution, but we have seen violations before and as soon as we get one more liberal on the court we will see it again.
Publius321: Those who compare history with all of the usurpations and encroachments of this administration could easily see that the violation of the stares that culminated in 1861 were modest compared to the evil this terrorist and his regime have promulgated over the past two years. He has attacked just about every sacred pillar that made this country great.
Venturer : “As long as so many people are getting Welfare, unemployment, pensions, and there are still a few working there will be no secession.”
Publius321: One must be incredibly naïve to believe that this litany of entitlements can be maintain without enslaving generations of workers expected to support the Boomers, not to mention the mass euthanasia that will also be required. It must fall and that is the very cause advanced by this saboteur.
Venturer : “We will have to wait and see what the Supreme Court says, but things will have to get a lot worse than they are before States and Citizens are ready to take the country apart and fix things.”
Publius321: Again, that is what the column actually says. This all depends upon the Supreme Court and the 2012 elections.
Venturer : “The next Civil war will not be like the last. No black and white issues here. This one will be political liberals against Conservatives. and it will be fought in
the streets not in the South or the North, but all over.”
Publius321: Obama would LIKE to make it out to be a racial issue but it won’t be. The southern states will be the main states to secede, the same states that are now suing the fed and the same states the Obama “Justice Dept.” is suing for enforcing the federal law the federal government itself violates.
Publius321: These were people saying the same things you wrote in the late 1850’s right up to the Civil War. They can’t envision it because of course we don’t WANT secession. States exhaust every last option against the tyrant until they have no other choice – just as our founding fathers did.
I’m done explaining this
Is that why they keep comparing him to Lincoln and the Stupid was reading a book about Lincoln?
Is it to simplistic to believe that a state that intends to suceed should start to print its own currency.
Let the people decide what currency they trust more.
Texas needs to look out. They seem to have a growing liberal faction. I have not been there but I hear gays have taken over Austin. The same with the once conservative NC. The sodomites took over Raleigh and Ashville... the nice locations.
Well said and sadly.....quite correct.
The homosexual “colonisation” of Austin happened years ago.
Currency is only half the equation. Indeed, it may not even be half. Our own revolution wasn’t tied to merely coin; nor was our civil war. There were legal and cultural differences that could not be reconciled.
My point being, states are not talking about seccession because we have not experienced an event (yet), that would serve as the catalyst.
But that doesn’t mean there are not groups below the state level that are talking. And the talking is increasing because such a potentiality is becoming more and more plausible.
southernnationalcongress.org is one example of the talk. While they do not advocate seccession— they seemed to have arrived to the conclusion that something has got to give.
Southerners aren’t exactly kicking their doors down. But the dollar isn’t worth 13 cents yet, and the SCOTUS has not solidified total control to the Federal Government....yet.
The homosexual “colonisation” of Austin happened years ago.
I would bet that Mary Kay Cosmetics sells to more males than to females given the number of granola type womyn here.
I believe you are 100% correct.
Some states may try to leave, but the more realistic scenario is anarchy brought on by class warfare and thugism in the streets, exacerbated by the vitriol coming from Obama. Social order will go, and the states are too weak to be the fall-back form of government holding things together. Some local couties and cities will be able to self-govern. It will be more like Afghanistan than Bosnia.
That is why guns and ammo and survivalist self sustainment is so important and popular these days. The government will look like it did during Katrina. Could not even deliver water, much less govern at the state or even county level. And the Feds and Fema were completely useless. Politicians are too busy stealing and paying back the people that own them to actually exercise any kind of political leadership. That is why wwe are in the sorry state we find ourselves.
ROTFL!!! Good one!
If the fraud does get re-elected next year, there will be a secession movement in a lot of states. The smart states will do this to get out from under the federal debt, and will form a new union without this burden. And the fraud won’t be able to lift a finger to stop it, the military will not allow itself to be used against other americans here. Plus, the fraud would probably welcome secession because he wants this country to break apart, it is part of his overall plan.
However, if/when he loses next year , the leftists and inner city blacks will attempt to start a new civil war, they will burn the cities to the ground. In other words, there will be blood.
Possibly you are correct, but the anarchy will only last for a short time. During those days the majority will choose to yield over most of their rights, in desperate longing for safety/normalcy, to an authoritarian/fascist state. This new government will have the consent of the church (small c), most social conservatives, and most economic liberals.
They’ve taken over Greensboro as well.
Thanks Fling. I coined the term a few wweks ago! I expect prosaic pundit will steal it in a few more weeks and pass it off as original. So it goes.
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